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Re:SF’s Housing Crisis Explained by rayiner on Tuesday April 15, 2014 @07:57AM (#7591327)
> No, some/most of the research underpinning the first iteration of these cherry picked technologies was paid for by the government, but the development of them into the ubiquitous form in which you and I are benefiting from them on a daily basis was purely private capitalist endeavour.

First, you're understating the government contribution. DARPA didn't just research network theory. They built a network. TCP/IP was designed under contract. Also, that point undermines the original argument, which is that entrepreneurs are necessary for innovation. Once the technology exists, development is something that can be done with a rate-regulated monopoly. AT&T wired up every person in America under such a regime.

I'm not saying that this would be my preferred model, but its one that works just fine.

Re:SF’s Housing Crisis Explained by hollerith on Tuesday April 15, 2014 @08:19AM (#7591394)
This is important to understand: the internet was already the largest computer network in the world -- and very engaging and worthwhile for a smart person -- before the private sector of the economy started to influence it significantly.

For at least a year after I started on the internet in Dec 1991, any use of the internet for "commercial activity" was disallowed (and did not happen enough for a person to notice it). Spam had not been invented yet; the entire marketing profession seemed unaware of the existence of the internet; the main form of promotion I can remember is announcements of academic and technical conferences; it was OK to make a "work wanted" post on Usenet only if you wanted to become an employee ("W-2") -- contractors ("1099") and one-man consulting shops were prohibited from using the internet to look for clients.

Although a few private-sector companies (UUNET for example although started as a non-profit in 1987 became a for-profit in 1989) were influencing the internet at this time, the influence was minor compared to the influence of governments, governmental contractors (notably BBN and Mitre) and universities.

And again, the internet was already very valuable and very able to enrich people's lives -- provided that those people were willing to use command-line interfaces.

Re:SF’s Housing Crisis Explained by waterlesscloud on Tuesday April 15, 2014 @04:05PM (#7593974)
SpaceX is being funded with government money, yet it's very much a capitalist enterprise.

Just because government money was involved doesn't mean the government developed the technologies, nor that profit wasn't a prime motive.