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Re:Brendan Eich, We’ve Failed You. I’m Sorry. by pfortuny on Friday April 04, 2014 @08:44AM (#7530954)
"Incensed", "personal bigotry"...

Calling names is calling names is calling names, nothing else. It adds nothing to the conversation, it subtracts everything (and by the way, suggest that the person using them has not much of a clear idea how to defend his ideas, and I am not saying that you suffer from this problem).

By the way, it was the State of California that carried out the poll. Is the state 'bigot'?

I guess it should be illegal to do that if the vote were straightaway against someone's basic rights. Or am I missing something and if enough people deem it right one could get a poll on 'the right of colored people to go to University'?

Re:Brendan Eich, We’ve Failed You. I’m Sorry. by jrs235 on Friday April 04, 2014 @09:36AM (#7531249)
"I'm for peace after we kill or imprison all the bad people."

"I'm for democracy after everyone agrees with me."

Soon in order to have a referendum on the ballot it will need to be voted on (to get it on a ballot) of which a simple majority must approve it. But, if "it should be illegal to do that if the vote were straightaway against someone's basic rights" were implemented then the referendum vote to get it on the ballot would become illegal too.

By the way, who defines "basic rights"? The majority? A minority in "power"? The who get to define "rights" are the ones that can defend their claims. Those that can defend their claims require weapons. This is what Kings did. They made claims to rights. Like, "I claim the right to the land you live on!" To which another king or the people would say "Bullshit!" Then if they couldn't amicable resolve their claims they went to war and defended their claims (whether their claims were moral or not). The outcome would speak for itself: the victor's claims were correct because they were able to defend their claims.

Our country was founded on protecting minorities not the majority. The greatest minority is the individual. I think we should be protecting individuals from tangible HARM not protecting "rights" and privileges which change over time depending on the whim of the majority or society.

Yes, we all have the right to choose to be sexually monogamous with another individual, pool our resources, and take care of and raise our offspring. We don't have a right to demand tax breaks or that third parties take care of our spouses and children. Get government completely out of marriage.

Re:Brendan Eich, We’ve Failed You. I’m Sorry. by pfortuny on Friday April 04, 2014 @11:31AM (#7531994)
Also all the insulting shows that the possible vision of 'marriage as a social institution' has not entered into their heads.

The example of 'property' is good because it is also a social institution and it is something which one cannot take for granted (there are societies ---hippies--- which deny the existence of it). When some minority claims their right to property (for example, the 'poor') or claim that the 'right to property' is harming them, what shall we do?

Are we bigots because we insist on the right to 'property'?