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Re:Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO by matthewn on Thursday April 03, 2014 @04:08PM (#7526091)
No, rights are manifestly NOT subject to a vote. That is why they are called rights.
Re:Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO by akerl_ on Thursday April 03, 2014 @04:19PM (#7526213)
That is the case in an ideal world, where we receive some blessed words inscribed upon our souls and also a way to read them.

Since we don't live in that ideal world, our only option is to designate some body to decide what are rights and what are not. Whether that body is a king or a judge or a council of judges or a legislative body or the full populace (or some combination of the above) is an important and worthwhile discussion, but in the end we do need to designate some entity to decide what the rights are.

Re:Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO by mkr-hn on Thursday April 03, 2014 @04:20PM (#7526226)
Fortunately, that entity sits above California's voters.
Re:Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO by akerl_ on Thursday April 03, 2014 @04:52PM (#7526537)
Except the population votes for the people who pick the members of that entity.

We've added a few hops, and hopefully increased the average intelligence of the people who get to decide on rights, but they still end up there based on the population's vote.

Re:Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO by hkphooey on Thursday April 03, 2014 @05:00PM (#7526611)
Is marriage a civil right, or even a fundamental human right? On closer examination, the answer appears to be NO.

The campaign for gay marriage, branded as marriage equality, actually leaves many people behind.

Brothers can't marry sisters, mothers can't marry sons (nice way to avoid inheritance tax!), men and women can't join in a polygamous marriage even though there is a long history of polygamy in many cultures around the world.

It's quite ironic that the campaign for marriage equality is itself highly discriminatory.

Re:Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO by blisterpeanuts on Thursday April 03, 2014 @10:47PM (#7528868)
You left out bestiality.

(which I've never understood why it wasn't spelled "beastiality")

I guess the rationale for specifically bestowing marital rights on same-sex (but non-related) spouses is that there's a significant number of them.

Polygamy, too, there might be a lot of that somewhere in the world, possibly Africa, obscure corners of Utah, certainly pre-modern China when it was normal for a wealthy land owner to have several wives, etc. I suspect it won't be long before polygamy is legalized. Maybe a couple of decades at most.

Re:Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO by icebraining on Thursday April 03, 2014 @04:16PM (#7526178)
Reality disagrees.
Re:Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO by matthewn on Thursday April 03, 2014 @04:21PM (#7526240)
No, it doesn't: Californians passed a proposition that violated people's rights. The courts, playing their proper role in our system, said, "Nope, you can't do that." That's what happened; that's reality.
Re:Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO by icebraining on Thursday April 03, 2014 @07:35PM (#7527917)
The courts played the role that the majority allowed them to play, just like they did for the hundreds of years during which even same-sex sexual activity was illegal, let alone gay marriage.

Like a diet that sometimes prevents people from eating what they crave, the system is nothing more than a mechanism of self-control for the majority.