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Re:Breaking Half of the Telegram Contest by tptacek on Wednesday April 02, 2014 @02:51PM (#7518016)
I'm another enthusiastic vote for TextSecure; those guys work on TextSecure because they love the core problem of doing secure comms right, and it vividly shows in their architecture and the way they write about it.
Re:Breaking Half of the Telegram Contest by tinco on Wednesday April 02, 2014 @03:00PM (#7518092)
The problem is that TextSecure is not seriously trying to be the next messaging app, and Threema and Telegram are.

It would be nice if there was actually anything better than Telegram I could recommend to my friends, but there just isn't.

Re:Breaking Half of the Telegram Contest by foobarqux on Wednesday April 02, 2014 @04:05PM (#7518556)
moxie has openly invited devs to use TextSecure as a backend.
Re:Breaking Half of the Telegram Contest by e1ven on Wednesday April 02, 2014 @05:09PM (#7519040)
TextSecure still doesn't have an iOS client. ;(

Even if you don't feel iOS devices are trustworthy, as long as it's limited to the Android-only world, it's not going to gain a wide adoption.

Re:Breaking Half of the Telegram Contest by acqq on Wednesday April 02, 2014 @05:22PM (#7519144)
It looks as they welcome serious development contributions, here's the github of TextSecure-iOS:

https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure-iOS

They also experiment with alternative currency contributions:

https://whispersystems.org/blog/bithub/

I think what I've never found is a honest description how much exactly we have to trust their server (on various levels, from the security aspects to the uptime aspects), and what would be the possibilities for involving other servers.

Re:Breaking Half of the Telegram Contest by aeontech on Wednesday April 02, 2014 @03:08PM (#7518153)
What's the consensus on CryptoCat? So far that seems the best secure candidate on iOS.
Re:Breaking Half of the Telegram Contest by tptacek on Wednesday April 02, 2014 @03:19PM (#7518231)
When people ask me directly, I tell them to avoid Cryptocat, in a spirit similar to the one I used in the 90s when telling people to avoid Sendmail.