Re:It's Inevitable: Designers Will Rule the Web
by callmevlad on Wednesday April 02, 2014 @01:26PM
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Consider the diversity of design we see in printed magazines, and the lack of diversity on the web. That's not really automating design, it's making it bland and uniform. Imagine if web designers had a tool like InDesign, and it actually worked by generating the right code - I personally think that would be extremely liberating to designers.
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Re:It's Inevitable: Designers Will Rule the Web
by stdbrouw on Wednesday April 02, 2014 @01:33PM
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But would people really like it? There's a 20-year history of people trying to make the web look pretty (splash pages, flash, fancy-schmancy javascript transitions etc.) and people hating them for it. There's something to be said for bland uniformity when what you really care about is the information, not what it looks like.
Re:It's Inevitable: Designers Will Rule the Web
by jiggy2011 on Wednesday April 02, 2014 @01:36PM
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But magazine designers don't have to care about usability to the same extent. Once people have to interact with your stuff consistency becomes important.
Back when Flash was in vogue there was all kinds of print designers using it to produce very creative websites. But the consensus was that people hated them.
Re:It's Inevitable: Designers Will Rule the Web
by callmevlad on Wednesday April 02, 2014 @01:40PM
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Yes, I agree, and web design tools should enforce/encourage good usability. Good usability doesn't have to be tied to software or code.
Re:It's Inevitable: Designers Will Rule the Web
by jiggy2011 on Wednesday April 02, 2014 @01:45PM
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You can't really enforce usability through tools , the best you can do is give people a more restrictive set of tools to work with. The more flexibility you have, the more power you give to screw it up.
Re:It's Inevitable: Designers Will Rule the Web
by xophe on Wednesday April 02, 2014 @01:35PM
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1) web design is an engineering discipline because you have to make things fast and fault-tolerant on top of making it look good. there's a lot more moving parts to a website than there is to an InDesign export.
2) any tool sufficiently powerful to render complex websites will make it considerably easier to create simple bland websites
3) the mythical oracle described above would not only be of interest to webdesign, but all of computer engineering. i wish you the best of luck.
Re:It's Inevitable: Designers Will Rule the Web
by jarrett on Wednesday April 02, 2014 @01:32PM
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It's very, very common for web designers to do their creative work in Photoshop or Illustrator. Then, they either code it themselves or hand the PDF/AI to a coder. So I don't believe the supposed blandness of the web results from a lack of visual design tools.