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Re:OkCupid/IAC Employees Donated Thousands to Anti-Gay Marri... by Loughla on Tuesday April 01, 2014 @05:56PM (#7512012)
Your argument is that no one was ever in support of slavery, or in support of denying women the right to vote?

That is a bit ridiculous, you realize that, correct?

Re:OkCupid/IAC Employees Donated Thousands to Anti-Gay Marri... by nilkn on Tuesday April 01, 2014 @06:16PM (#7512136)
No, that is not what I was saying at all.

Go to any of the thousands of rural communities in the United States, especially in the midwest, and you will find many people who will strongly stand by their opinion that gay marriage should not be legal.

Just because you believe that gay rights are as fundamental as women's suffrage does not mean that, as a political issue, gay rights are as decided nationwide as women's suffrage.

Re:OkCupid/IAC Employees Donated Thousands to Anti-Gay Marri... by Loughla on Wednesday April 02, 2014 @08:57AM (#7515118)
Women's suffrage, many, many years ago, would have been in the same boat that gay rights are now. Go back many years before that, and slavery would be similarly as controversial. Do you not understand that?

Saying that gay rights aren't as fundamental of an issue because it's not as cut and dry today as women's suffrage and slavery are today is patently ridiculous. Those issues have had decades to pass from controversial to relatively settled to settled.

Age of an issue does not dictate importance.

Re:OkCupid/IAC Employees Donated Thousands to Anti-Gay Marri... by nilkn on Wednesday April 02, 2014 @10:29AM (#7515723)
> Saying that gay rights aren't as fundamental of an issue because it's not as cut and dry today as women's suffrage and slavery are today is patently ridiculous.

That's really not what I wrote at all, though.

Re:OkCupid/IAC Employees Donated Thousands to Anti-Gay Marri... by Loughla on Wednesday April 02, 2014 @10:59AM (#7515958)
"Just because you believe that gay rights are as fundamental as women's suffrage does not mean that, as a political issue, gay rights are as decided nationwide as women's suffrage."

That's exactly what that part of your sentence says, unless I am reading this incorrectly.

Re:OkCupid/IAC Employees Donated Thousands to Anti-Gay Marri... by nilkn on Wednesday April 02, 2014 @12:30PM (#7516723)
I think you're reading it incorrectly. You're interpreting it backwards from what I intended.

X = "you believe that gay rights are as fundamental as women's suffrage"

Y = "gay rights are as decided nationwide as women's suffrage"

All I wrote is that X does not imply Y. You seen to be interpreting it, though, as (not Y) implies (not X), the contrapositive of which is X does imply Y, which is basically the opposite of what I meant.