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Re:Ask HN: How do I deal with the "unpaid overtime crowd"? by kenko on Friday March 28, 2014 @03:29PM (#7489446)
Why is leaving after five the way one demonstrates caring about the business/product/team? Why isn't it just as plausible to say: "I care about the business/product/team, which is why I leave at 5 every day, or shortly thereafter---after all, I want to be refreshed for the following day's work, and don't want to resent time demands the business places on me, etc."? The idea that if I give a shit about something of course I'll spend a bunch of extra time on it and devalue everything else is pernicious. Even a model employee can leave at five.
Re:Ask HN: How do I deal with the "unpaid overtime crowd"? by MortenK on Friday March 28, 2014 @03:50PM (#7489559)
"Why is leaving after five the way one demonstrates caring about the business/product/team?"

It is not. The way you demonstrate your lack of care is if you insist to leave, even in times of uncommon crisis.

My points from the original post:

1) If it's business as usual = Work the 7-8 hours.

2) If the business has constant emergencies or otherwise requires you to regularly work more than 7-8 hours = It's a badly managed company and you should leave if you aren't in a position to change things.

3) If the business very rarely encounters emergencies: Stick around if you reasonably can, and help your managers and team members get the emergency resolved if this is within your skills and area of responsibility.