It doesn't do that to everyone. If anything it makes me more creative. Pity that after a couple of weeks, they stop doing anything, and the withdrawal is so unpleasant.

sorry I meant neutral, ph of 7, and if your urine is acidic <7, eating basic foods/supplements (tums), will get you back to where you need to be.

you need basic urine to metabolize amps properly, a glass of OJ or anything with vit. c/citric acid will make it seem like it's not working.

I'll bite. This hasn't been my experience nor the experience of anyone I know who uses Ritalin or Aderall (or Dexedrine).

YMMV

When I did Amphetamines for the first time (and cocaine for that matter), I was like WOW. I couldn't believe the sheer mental clarity I experienced. This was more like a team of accountants on a high-speed bullet train, filing Kim Dotcom's annual taxes while doing sudoku's in the background.

I managed to take a low dose of l-amp for exactly 2 consecutive days before I started abusing again. Yes it worked, but I just want more and more. You feel like a superhero compared to baseline.

I agree, amphetamine/methamphetamine really boost my creativity and productivity, however it was too much for me to handle. I have experienced some of the most intense mental breakthroughs and produced some of my most creative works with speed, but it takes it's toll in a heavy way, atleast if you go at it like I did. I am just now starting to feel normal again 6-months later after recovering from a 3-month speed fueled intellectual adventure that landed me in the mental hospital twice due to psychosis. I think there is a reason our minds are calibrated with particular dopamine and neurotransmitter levels, when we alter these levels we see the amazing potential of the human mind, but the brain hardware can't handle it unfortunately. Addiction is hard, now I am back to coding (sober) and I find myself thinking about having a bump whenever I feel unmotivated, which is often.

Hear hear. Don't give in. If you wanna talk to someone who's had a similar experience. be welcomed. Although it didn't land me in the hospital, I must say I'm thankful of the support of my girlfriend. Even when I was listening to the shadow-people plotting against me, she supported me and helped me pull through. Don't kid yourself when you think you can manage on your own. Even if you have a super strong will which seems you do. The cravings can be bad, and giving in could be in a blink of an eye.

Found an interesting article that discusses the tight-rope add/adhd'ers walk when medicating.

http://www.thefix.com/content/adderall-addicts

I honestly must say I've never read into Atomoxetine, and it looks interesting.

Edit: A randomised double-blind placebo-controlled trial found that atomoxetine is an efficacious weight loss medication

Never mind..

It has been mine. Sure, YMMV.

But don't you require continuously increasing dosage?

Don't think so, but as others pointed, YMMV. A post I just released: http://www.reddit.com/r/ADHD/comments/21kz8l/addadhd_no_supe...