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Re:Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO by MrZongle2 on Monday March 24, 2014 @02:52PM (#7460445)
Which issues would remain private political matters?

Short answer: none, if somebody disagrees with them.

This is another sign of our increasingly polarized (and politicized) society.

If Eich supported Prop 8 in California, then clearly he's a homophobic tool of the Koch Brothers.

If Eich opposed Prop 8, then clearly he's a leftist degenerate and tool of George Soros.

I'd like to propose an addition to Shakespeare's list: after the lawyers, we go after the damn partisans.

Re:Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO by JohnBooty on Monday March 24, 2014 @03:00PM (#7460527)

  If Eich supported Prop 8 in California, then clearly he's a homophobic tool of the Koch Brothers.

  If Eich opposed Prop 8, then clearly he's a leftist degenerate and tool of George Soros.
You're doing something at least as logically incorrect as the application of partisan labels if you're characterizing this discussion in such a way. I see a pretty good discussion where the overwhelming majority of people are expressing disappointment in one of Eich's actions, not engaging in partisan name-calling.
Re:Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO by wwweston on Monday March 24, 2014 @04:00PM (#7460995)
> I see a pretty good discussion where the overwhelming majority of people are expressing disappointment in one of Eich's actions

If it were really about expressing disappointment, then the work would have been done the last time(s) this was hashed out.

Bringing it up at the time he's receiving the office carries a clear implication: support for prop 8 should be a mark against considering someone for high profile positions like this or should perhaps outright disqualify them.

Re:Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO by JohnBooty on Monday March 24, 2014 @04:04PM (#7461018)
Wait. If we're disappointed, it can only be expressed during some specific window? And we can only be disappointed... once?

For whatever it's worth, I'd somehow missed this news about Brandon Eich the first time around.

Re:Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO by wwweston on Monday March 24, 2014 @04:18PM (#7461120)
> And we can only be disappointed... once?

I'd think the "plural" on times would cover the answer to that question, on the level you're asking, anyway.

More to the point, yes, there are limits to what a financial contribution to prop 8 implies that thoughtful people will recognize. One of them might be bound to what an action taken 5 years ago would imply about positions today.

> For whatever it's worth, I'd somehow missed this news about Brandon Eich the first time around.

Clearly, you have been long and deeply engaged in the relevant topics.

Re:Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO by MrZongle2 on Monday March 24, 2014 @03:16PM (#7460648)
So it's only partisan if they agree with Eich?
Re:Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO by jbooth on Monday March 24, 2014 @03:58PM (#7460983)
It's only partisan if the community's split on the issue -- it's not partisan to be against slavery or support women's suffrage, even though it once was, and it's rapidly becoming non-partisan to support equal rights for gay relationships.
Re:Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO by MrZongle2 on Monday March 24, 2014 @04:03PM (#7461012)
So is "the community" an accurate reflection of society at large?
Re:Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO by jbooth on Monday March 24, 2014 @04:21PM (#7461150)
Does it matter? The job is a tech community job.

If he were publicly in favor of warrantless wiretapping, he'd be catching even more crap about it from the tech community, yet the tech community is even further out of step from mainstream society on that issue.

Re:Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO by MrZongle2 on Monday March 24, 2014 @06:24PM (#7462109)
Does it matter?

Apparently it does matter to quite a few people here. If the community represents society as a whole, then it is a serious issue. If the community does not, then this is a tempest in a teapot.

Re:Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO by JohnBooty on Monday March 24, 2014 @04:09PM (#7461058)
There are a few possible meanings of partisanship. The definition most relevant to American politics involves acting/thinking along party lines, as opposed to thinking independently about specific issues.
Re:Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO by protomyth on Monday March 24, 2014 @04:55PM (#7461386)
"If Eich supported Prop 8 in California, then clearly he's a homophobic tool of the Koch Brothers."

The Koch Brothers have given money to support gay marriage. If you intend to slander people at least be truthful on what they support or don't support.

Re:Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO by MrZongle2 on Monday March 24, 2014 @05:18PM (#7461571)
Read my post again. Who exactly did I slander, besides nameless partisans?
Re:Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO by protomyth on Monday March 24, 2014 @05:36PM (#7461744)
The Koch Brothers as you misrepresented their stance and perpetuated a myth.
Re:Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO by MrZongle2 on Monday March 24, 2014 @05:58PM (#7461928)
I'll repeat: read my post again.

I posted two typical positions held by partisans on either end of the political spectrum. Neither did I represent as my opinion, and definitely not as fact.

Why did you latch on to one of these positions? Aren't you equally outraged about the "leftist degenerate and tool of George Soros" position as well?

Did it occur to you that perhaps if I was posting two diametrically opposing viewpoints, I was making a larger point and not simply spouting my personal beliefs?

Have the downvotes proven my point?

Re:Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO by protomyth on Monday March 24, 2014 @06:17PM (#7462063)
Yes, I got that you were "posting two diametrically opposing viewpoints", but that doesn't mean that you should get a pass on misrepresenting the example you gave for one of your opposing viewpoints since it was in error and not the viewpoint of the party you attributed it to. I didn't look up George Soros's view on the issue to find out if your example's mention represented his belief or not.

Making larger points doesn't give one license to misrepresent the view of people in such a contentious issue. I'm sure if someone attributed that belief to you as part of a larger point, you would feel a bit slighted.

> Have the downvotes proven my point?

I cannot down vote you, and I don't know what the down voters found about your post that lead them to take their action. Perhaps they will comment also.

Re:Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO by MrZongle2 on Monday March 24, 2014 @06:22PM (#7462096)
How exactly did I misrepresent the view?

Have not the Koch brothers been slandered in the media and in fact on the floor of the Senate? Have they not been made into the Great Conservative Boogeyman?

As for "homophobic": the first post in the thread contains the following phrase: "I guess 2 years is long enough for most people to have forgotten the brief storm about his homophobic political activities."

Do you mean to tell me that nobody would ever take such a position as I stated?

Re:Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO by protomyth on Monday March 24, 2014 @06:45PM (#7462280)
"How exactly did I misrepresent the view?"

oh for the love of words, your example was: "If Eich supported Prop 8 in California, then clearly he's a homophobic tool of the Koch Brothers."

So, you made the association of "homophobic tool" to "Koch Brothers" indicating that they have such tools. Your example directly attributed beliefs to the Koch Brothers that they do not hold and actually oppose with money. This would be misrepresentation.

"Have not the Koch brothers been slandered in the media and in fact on the floor of the Senate? Have they not been made into the Great Conservative Boogeyman?"

Yes, they have been slandered on the Senate floor. That doesn't give you a free pass to commit the same slander. Adding to the pile is not a commendable activity.

"Do you mean to tell me that nobody would ever take such a position as I stated?"

It seems that plenty of people like to attribute to people things they do not actually believe. It is quite common in politics. It is still slander.

Re:Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO by MrZongle2 on Monday March 24, 2014 @06:53PM (#7462321)
I apologize for using sarcasm in my previous posts. That, along with pointing out absurdity, is apparently an unacceptable use of language for some.

In the future I shall try to make the effort of being very direct and to the point so as to avoid any confusion. This, hopefully, will alleviate the concerns of the literal-minded, the humorless, and the partisan.

Re:Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO by protomyth on Monday March 24, 2014 @07:21PM (#7462491)
How about, in the future, pick your examples with a care for those who you name.