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Re:Emails From Schmidt And Sergey Brin Show Agreements Not T... by nova22033 on Sunday March 23, 2014 @07:29PM (#7455742)
This may be heresy on HN but this actually proves the engineer shortage. If there wasn't a shortage, they wouldn't need non-poaching agreements.
Re:Emails From Schmidt And Sergey Brin Show Agreements Not T... by arg01 on Sunday March 23, 2014 @08:19PM (#7455900)
Isn't one of the common arguments that they're isn't a shortage the companies just aren't willing to pay enough to get people interested. I mean when I think make BIG money in IT I think startup and all the risks involved or management rather than high level engineer. That will have an effect on who joins the industry.
Re:Emails From Schmidt And Sergey Brin Show Agreements Not T... by 6d0debc071 on Sunday March 23, 2014 @07:51PM (#7455801)
It supports the idea that the cost of finding someone of similar criteria among the unemployed, or taking a less skilled programmer and investing in them, exceeds the cost of finding them among one's peers.

That's not necessarily a consequence of there being an engineer shortage. You'd expect much the same behaviour if most people who emerged from uni, or worked commonly in IT, didn't have the criteria they were interested in.

Re:Emails From Schmidt And Sergey Brin Show Agreements Not T... by mabhatter on Monday March 24, 2014 @01:38AM (#7456908)
Not really... Because companies in Silicon Valley poach employees on purpose to interrupt other companies. It's a real problem in a lot of industries.

I'd note you don't see Microsoft in this because they stayed in Washington and bought employment laws they like. So they can force employees to sign non-competes in Seattle while they poach from California that won't allow companies to do that.

Working in an auto state, I've seen that in other industries and it's actually kind of sickening. In the auto industry it's in bad taste to do that. Many auto suppliers have no-poaching in their business contracts. Which ties up a lot of the industry because everybody does business with everybody. As an EMPLOYEE you can apply to another job, but recruiters aren't allowed to cold-call between companies.

I've worked in an office where we would get cold call agents during work. They'd call all the extensions in the office and it was just offensive being put on the spot like that. I can't imagine working at Apple or Google and getting calls like that... And the work environment becomes "awkward" for the rest of the day because everybody knows everybody got a call... There's nothing good about that type of hiring practice.

Re:Emails From Schmidt And Sergey Brin Show Agreements Not T... by chetanahuja on Monday March 24, 2014 @01:45AM (#7456928)
"I'd note you don't see Microsoft in this"

Micrsoft was one of the (many) companies listed with which Google had similar non-poaching agreements.