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Re:Larry Page: I’d Rather Leave My Billions to Elon Musk Tha... by wpietri on Thursday March 20, 2014 @04:35PM (#7438522)
False dichotomy. Those aren't the only two choices.

Nobody's suggesting we get rid of capitalism. But effective participation in capitalism requires quite a lot that capitalism itself isn't good at providing. Government, for example. Freelance government, like warlords and mob bosses, isn't great for economic development. Good parenting and a stable home life are not things that capitalism is producing a lot of. Education and public health have very long payback times and difficult-to-capture benefits, making the ROI pretty low. That's made worse by people using capitalism's mechanisms to profit from destroying value, and a very short-term focus driven by public markets' focus on the next quarter's earnings.

As an example of what a more subtle approach gives you, look at Brazil's Bolsa Familia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolsa_Fam%C3%ADlia

They are basically giving money to the poor: $13 per month per kid who stays vaccinated and in school. Studies suggest it's having a substantial impact on poverty and inequality. So yes, giving modest amounts of money (0.5% of Brazil's GDP) can reduce poverty because helps recipients to prepare themselves to participate effectively in a free-market economy.

Re:Larry Page: I’d Rather Leave My Billions to Elon Musk Tha... by wpietri on Thursday March 20, 2014 @04:51PM (#7438667)
One clarification: What I wrote could be read as suggesting that education and public health have a low ROI. That's true for VCs. But it's false for society as a whole: having an educated, healthy populace is excellent for wealth production. It makes sense for governments to invest heavily in that because government can easily capture some of that created value just by taxing everybody. Which they are already doing.
Re:Larry Page: I’d Rather Leave My Billions to Elon Musk Tha... by nickff on Thursday March 20, 2014 @06:04PM (#7439178)
Re:Larry Page: I’d Rather Leave My Billions to Elon Musk Tha... by wpietri on Thursday March 20, 2014 @07:15PM (#7439556)
If you know of an approach that succeeds 100% of the time, I look forward to hearing about it. But choosing North Korea as your counterexample in opposition to modest government investment in long-term poverty reduction/capital creation efforts like education and health care is a ridiculous straw man. No statistics are available, but they surely must be one of the worst.
Re:Larry Page: I’d Rather Leave My Billions to Elon Musk Tha... by nzp on Friday March 21, 2014 @05:27PM (#7445030)
> Nobody's suggesting we get rid of capitalism.

With all due respect, speak for yourself.