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Re:Google sued for data-mining students' email by mgkimsal on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @06:55AM (#7427790)
"but the implied license you give by sending me that email would go quite far."

There's nothing implied in sending an email beyond "I want you to read the contents". If there's more I want you to do, those wishes would be in the email itself.

30 years ago, if I wrote a paper letter to a company, I was not implying that I want them to build up a profile of me based on my stated info compared to the stated info of other people, where my letter came from, type of stationary, quality of my grammar, etc., then send me coupons that match the behavior they expect of people of my profile. I am implying that I want them to read my letter and take care of my request.

Re:Google sued for data-mining students' email by aestra on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @09:10AM (#7428360)
>30 years ago, if I wrote a paper letter to a company, I was not implying that I want them to build up a profile of me based on my stated info compared to the stated info of other people, where my letter came from, type of stationary, quality of my grammar, etc., then send me coupons that match the behavior they expect of people of my profile. I am implying that I want them to read my letter and take care of my request.

Yeah, but it essentially always happened. You know those warranty cards you get with new products? They have always been used to build marketing databases.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/25/technology/do-you-really-n...

http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/advice/20030421a1.asp

Re:Google sued for data-mining students' email by magicalist on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @07:11AM (#7427849)
That wouldn't be a parallel situation. The parallel would be you hire some company to sort and collate your mail (and toss out your junk mail for you), and in exchange they slip in some coupons that match the behavior they expect of people that get the kind of mail that you do. You may not like that trade, but fortunately you don't have to make it (or you can go get the business version).

Meanwhile, no, you have no right to dictate how I contract out how I handle my mail by sending me a letter. You gave me that letter, and you'd have a difficult time making a case even if I then proceeded to make thousands of physical copies of it and distributed it at a street corner.

Re:Google sued for data-mining students' email by mgkimsal on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @08:46AM (#7428217)
I wasn't reacting to what you're allowed to do with it, or what rights I may or may not have. It was the 'implication' part stated earlier. There's no implication when I send a message that I want anything other than the message to be read by the recipient. That's it.
Re:Google sued for data-mining students' email by Oletros on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @07:36AM (#7427932)
Google is not handling your mail, it is handling the receiver email
Re:Google sued for data-mining students' email by thaumasiotes on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @08:11AM (#7428057)
You don't have any rights in a physical letter you send away. There would be no issue with the recipient engaging a service to handle letters that happen to be sent to them, and that service processing those letters however they saw fit, including by recording information about the sender(s).

I guess what I'm saying is... what's your point?

edit:

You appear to be misreading your parent comment. The parallel situation they describe is precisely that the recipient engages a company to process their mail (read the description: "you hire some company to sort and collate your mail (and toss out your junk mail for you), and in exchange they slip in some coupons [for] people who get the kind of mail that you do". All of that applies to receiving mail, not sending it.)

And this is precisely what's happening with Google: if you send mail to my gmail address, I've engaged Google to process it on my behalf. You have no say in the matter, nor can you.

Re:Google sued for data-mining students' email by Oletros on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @08:51AM (#7428247)
Yes, I think I missreaded it