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Re:Save more with Google Drive by icebraining on Thursday March 13, 2014 @02:17PM (#7393658)
Who cares? If they close it, you signup for a competitor and re-upload the data. Even if they do close it, you'll have months to copy everything.

And besides, if you're relying on a single system for all your backups, you're doing it wrong.

Re:Save more with Google Drive by fletchowns on Thursday March 13, 2014 @02:25PM (#7393729)
That's a terrible retort. Downloading and then uploading a terabyte of data can be very expensive depending on where you live, and it can also take a very long time.
Re:Save more with Google Drive by icebraining on Thursday March 13, 2014 @02:33PM (#7393805)
Download and then uploading a terabyte of data can be very expensive depending on where you live

Dropbox doesn't have a 1TB plan, but 2x500GB costs $1000/year. On Drive, it costs $100/year. That's a difference of $900/year.

I don't know where you live, but around here $900/year buys you a pretty fucking good connection, with blackjack and hookers included.

it can also take a very long time.

So what? You can still use Drive until everything is copied.

Re:Save more with Google Drive by fletchowns on Thursday March 13, 2014 @02:58PM (#7394005)
I live in the Bay Area and I pay about $800/year for 120KB/s upload (AT&T U-Verse). Certainly no blackjack and hookers included.
Re:Save more with Google Drive by 300bps on Thursday March 13, 2014 @04:07PM (#7394567)
I live in the Bay Area and I pay about $800/year for 120KB/s upload

Well, that's terrible and you are no doubt aware of that. I live in Philadelphia and pay $74.95 per month for Unlimited home phone service, Prime TV channel lineup and 75 Mbps downstream and 35 Mbps upstream unlimited Internet through Verizon FIOS.

I currently use both Dropbox and OneDrive but this pricing is ridiculously cheap. I've been purposely holding back on the things I back up onto cloud because of its costs but if competitors don't follow suit I'll be switching. The main thing I haven't been backing up in the cloud are the ~ 400 GB of home movies I have.

Re:Save more with Google Drive by lstamour on Thursday March 13, 2014 @04:32PM (#7394782)
And then I did the math and realised I pay $1735.54 per year for my cable Internet...

300 down / 20 up with a 1 TB cap doesn't come cheap when no competition exists at those speeds. If it were even offered in my area, fibre from the same company is north of $3000/year, and for that all I get is symmetric uplink.

Still, at 300 down, 1 TB = 8388608 mbits / 300 mbits/s = 466 minutes or just under 8 hours. And luckily, my monthly cap is 1 TB. (Also lucky: I don't download 24/7 to hit that cap in under 8 hours.)

Re:Save more with Google Drive by pwg on Thursday March 13, 2014 @05:57PM (#7395401)
Verizon FIOS business class: 99.99/month. Essentially 1200/year.

50Mbit down - 50Mbit up - no data caps (or so they say).

And yes, I do (provided the other end is capable) see those speeds.

Re:Save more with Google Drive by lstamour on Thursday March 13, 2014 @10:40PM (#7396660)
> provided the other end is capable

Yeah. I noticed that too -- if a site is slow, I now either blame the location-unaware Google DNS (because of crappy ISP-provided DNS) or I know to blame the site. Even if I hardcode an alkamai address for my favourite streaming site, the only way I get to top speed is by 802.11ac when my Nexus 5 is cooperating (it really likes the stability of G or N) or by plugging in with gigabit Ethernet. But wow, it makes the Internet at work seem blazing slow. A reverse from the 90s, eh? ;-)

Funny. I would have thought more people on HN would chime in with plans $100+. Of course it also makes it harder for me to shop for a dedicated server -- since I really want gigE or 10gigE to serve things fast enough to myself. And the sad truth is I know I'll see 600-1.2gbits over copper before I see fiber optics. I give it another 2-3 years tops. (Why? I'm already hooked up locally to 600mbps, but they only use half right now.) I just hope prices don't double again, as 5 years ago this plan was nearly half off for half the speed.

That said, I'd pay the same to Google Fiber if they chose Toronto next year (yes, I know it's near double), just so I could have a proper, local DNS service from my ISP with no search hijacking. Is it too much to ask a telco for respect to go along with speed?

Re:Save more with Google Drive by eterm on Thursday March 13, 2014 @03:13PM (#7394149)
Business T1 pipe?

As residential users we are I think prone to forget how much cheaper and faster our unreliable async connections are in comparison to business broadband.

Re:Save more with Google Drive by philsnow on Thursday March 13, 2014 @04:55PM (#7394948)
I guess that you are 33 +- 3 years old :)

a t1 was "fast" about 15 years ago, so if you learned a tiny bit about business class internet right around when you were 20 like I did, that's how fast a connection would have been around then.

Re:Save more with Google Drive by tjohns on Thursday March 13, 2014 @03:16PM (#7394175)
Comcast in the bay area charges $77/month for a residential-class connection at 50 Mbps down / 10 Mbps up.

Even if you go for a business-class connection, it's $70/month for 16/3.

In short, you need to find a better ISP. :)

Re:Save more with Google Drive by fletchowns on Thursday March 13, 2014 @03:27PM (#7394259)
There's no alternative here.
Re:Save more with Google Drive by diminoten on Thursday March 13, 2014 @03:04PM (#7394072)
You're getting ripped off.

Severely.

Re:Save more with Google Drive by fletchowns on Thursday March 13, 2014 @03:16PM (#7394178)
You say that like I have a choice for my ISP.
Re:Save more with Google Drive by diminoten on Thursday March 13, 2014 @06:42PM (#7395664)
You mean like Comcast, Unwired, Sonic, MegaPath, DSL Extreme, Covad, and AT&T?

Yeah, I guess I'd call that "choice".

Re:Save more with Google Drive by fletchowns on Thursday March 13, 2014 @08:37PM (#7396212)
AT&T U-Verse is the only thing available in my apartment complex. I chuckled at Unwired...I can pay twice as much for half the speed? Sign me up!!
Re:Save more with Google Drive by shinratdr on Thursday March 13, 2014 @02:54PM (#7393976)
That would be 100/month, not a year. Looks like Drive and Dropbox actually have identical pricing in this respect.
Re:Save more with Google Drive by pfg on Thursday March 13, 2014 @03:07PM (#7394100)
No, it's $10/month on Drive, and 2 * $49.99/month on Dropbox (or 2 * $499/year).
Re:Save more with Google Drive by jl6 on Thursday March 13, 2014 @04:44PM (#7394875)
Dropbox has an unlimited plan for $795.
Re:Save more with Google Drive by crazygringo on Thursday March 13, 2014 @02:33PM (#7393806)
If it's so incredibly expensive where you live, then you probably aren't using online file storage in the first place.

And yes it can take a long time, but you might swap cloud providers every 2-5 years, you're not doing it every day. Even if it still takes a month to copy all your files, that's generally an unattended process, so it's not such a big deal.

I'm not saying it's trivial, but it's not a huge deal. All things considered, it's pretty easy to switch.

Re:Save more with Google Drive by arjie on Thursday March 13, 2014 @03:17PM (#7394188)
Not to enter the Google v Dropbox argument, but with data caps, it's easy to slowly build up a lot of backed up data that you cannot really retrieve all at once.
Re:Save more with Google Drive by rwallace on Thursday March 13, 2014 @04:05PM (#7394550)
Not to enter that argument either, but whatever cloud storage service you use, you should be storing your data there as well as on at least one local hard disk, not instead of.
Re:Save more with Google Drive by lstamour on Thursday March 13, 2014 @04:23PM (#7394699)
That's likely why Google and Dropbox both offer "Sync"-style functionality, as do iCloud and OneDrive. It's on your disk plus in the cloud.
Re:Save more with Google Drive by blisterpeanuts on Thursday March 13, 2014 @02:44PM (#7393905)
>>>Download and then uploading a terabyte of data can be very expensive depending on where you live, and it can also take a very long time.

Not if you have Google Fiber!

Of course, you have to hope they don't exit that business, as well.

Re:Save more with Google Drive by Retric on Thursday March 13, 2014 @10:45PM (#7396679)
You don't need to download locally, rent a server for ~50$ and use it to do the download + upload and even if they shut down in 2.5 years your still saving over 2,000$ which IMO is worth a reasonable effort.
Re:Save more with Google Drive by foobarqux on Thursday March 13, 2014 @05:16PM (#7395121)
Spin up a VPS and transfer the files through that. It will cost you $10.
Re:Save more with Google Drive by scott_karana on Thursday March 13, 2014 @02:39PM (#7393865)
If Google Drive is getting shuttered, no doubt their competitors will immediately implement "Google Drive importers" using the API, if they don't have them already.