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Re:Sony and Panasonic announce the Archival Disc format by acdha on Monday March 10, 2014 @11:12AM (#7373341)
> Although one might hope they do accelerated aging tests on their production

The experienced storage admins I know share that hope but don't trust vendors not to get it wrong. It's just too easy to miss a factor which turns out to matter.

> I was merely responding to the assertion that CD-Rs are entirely unsuited for archival purposes, and backed it up with my own experiences over a decade and a half.

Question: have you done bit-level checksum validation on that old media or is that just the ability to read without errors? There's a little bit of error correction built into the format but I wouldn't trust it for anything important.

Re:Sony and Panasonic announce the Archival Disc format by hga on Monday March 10, 2014 @11:37AM (#7373513)
Bit level CRC-32 checksum validation, absolutely. (Which is actually probably marginal for the file sizes concerned, but that's the standard everyone uses.)

However my words are coming across in this discussion, I'm really not a very trusting guy! Many of my early computer experiences were in the early '80s with surplus hardware from the '70s, including a PDP-11/45 that was a bit beyond the 300th DEC manufactured. Of course everyone used magtape back then for backups, and those were quite reliable (originally intended to be reliable off-line storage).

ADDED: and there are other precautions to take. E.g. I only bought my optical media in April and October, to minimize the environmental stress during shipping.

Re:Sony and Panasonic announce the Archival Disc format by acdha on Monday March 10, 2014 @02:19PM (#7374688)
> Bit level CRC-32 checksum validation, absolutely. (Which is actually probably marginal for the file sizes concerned, but that's the standard everyone uses.)

In the digital preservation community, the standard is at least MD-5 / SHA-1 and most people are moving to SHA-256/512. With a CRC-32 check you're likely to get false-negatives for modern data volumes and there are disturbing reports of CRC failures at higher than expected rates[1] which suggest that the best answer is using multiple, cryptographic hashes particularly since the computation has effectively been free for a least a decade except on unusually CPU-starved storage hosts.

1. I don't recall the paper but I believe it was a followup to http://conferences.sigcomm.org/sigcomm/2000/conf/paper/sigco...