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Re:The Self(ie) Generation by msandford on Saturday March 08, 2014 @10:55PM (#7367361)
I'm over 30 so probably not a millenial.

Honestly whose fault is is that millenials are so shitty? It's not the millenial's fault that their parents raised them horribly, didn't ever let them fail (for fear of ruining their future!) and obsessively planned any and all aspects of their lives.

When did the "everyone should have lots of self-esteem because we're all unique snowflakes!" movement get started? If you take the year that really got going and add 10-20 to the number, does that roughly approximate the point at which you started to realize that these kids are all worthless?

Of course that generalization that I've made of the parents and education of millenials isn't entirely true; I'm sure plenty of them had perfectly decent parents. But if we're going to make generalizations let's talk about both sides of it. Kids don't really grow up in a vacuum.

Re:The Self(ie) Generation by argumentum on Sunday March 09, 2014 @01:48AM (#7367738)
According to the article, you probably are included:

> defined by Pew as Americans ages 18 to 33

Re:The Self(ie) Generation by msandford on Sunday March 09, 2014 @12:38PM (#7368855)
Okay, let's go!

"Generation X, commonly abbreviated to Gen X, is the generation born after the Western Post–World War II baby boom. Demographers, historians and commentators use beginning birth dates from the early 1960s to the early 1980s."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_X

"Millennials, or the Millennial Generation,[1] also known as Generation Y, are the demographic cohort following Generation X. There are no precise dates when the generation starts and ends. Commentators use beginning birth years from the early 1980s to the early 2000s."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennials

"Generation Z is one name used for the cohort of people born after the Millennial Generation. There is no agreement on the exact dates of the generation with some sources starting it at the mid or late 1990s [1] or from the mid 2000s [2] to the present day. This is the generation that is currently being born."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z

Alright so what have we learned?

Gen X: early 1960s to early 1980s

Gen Y: early 1980s to early 2000s

Gen Z: mid 1990s/early 2000s to today and further

You can't really have a clear start and end date to broad generalizations because the nature of a generalization prevents it.

Re:The Self(ie) Generation by argumentum on Sunday March 09, 2014 @04:05PM (#7369770)
I agree, I just was relaying what was stated in the article (1981 to 2000 birth years).

When I hear "millennial generation", I think not of birth year, but rather of the set of people who grew up along with what we now refer to as the "technology industry".

We tend to take for granted nowadays that next year is going to be phenomenally different than this year, in terms of the tools that we use to communicate, have fun and get things done.

For "millennials", this is very easy to comprehend, because our whole lives are constructed around this constant change. I think it's much harder for people even slightly older (or later exposed to tech).