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Re:Dark spot under cockpit of A-10s by Nrsolis on Thursday March 06, 2014 @02:46PM (#7356104)
Jeez. Tanks?

You're neglecting one of the most valuable roles for the A-10: close air support for ground troops in contact.

In that situation (read: the entirety of our conflict in Afghanistan/Iraq) tanks had NO ROLE. You're fighting a highly mobile ground force that often have an armament/position advantage and that's where the A-10 CAS really really makes a difference. Nobody fought TANKS in Afghanistan.

Ask anyone who's been in contact with the enemy how they feel when they hear that distinctive "BRRRRRRRAAAAAP!"

It's like FSCKING CHRISTMAS.

Re:Dark spot under cockpit of A-10s by leviathant on Thursday March 06, 2014 @03:39PM (#7356406)
I think this needs illustration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuYmn_xYB78

My father worked on A-10s in the Air Guard, I thought was very familiar with them... but it wasn't really until I saw that video that I realized how terrifying they are in the appropriate situation. While the above video is a friendly-fire close call, you're probably not going to find video like that from the other side of the line.

Re:Dark spot under cockpit of A-10s by ericd on Friday March 07, 2014 @03:46AM (#7359128)
Wow, it sounds just like a dragon's roar there. It must have a hell of an effect on morale...
Re:Dark spot under cockpit of A-10s by Nrsolis on Thursday March 06, 2014 @04:19PM (#7356675)
Thanks for posting that video. Very informative!
Re:Dark spot under cockpit of A-10s by tim333 on Friday March 07, 2014 @09:39AM (#7360420)
Yeah, apparently the problem with using high speed jets if they can't hang out close to look out the window and figure which people are the bad guys. Helicopters are too lightly armoured and get shot down and current drones are a bit lightly armed to hold off loads of enemy troops. Maybe in the future when the drones are more like http://youtu.be/zjympX1bxI4?t=18s retiring the A10 would make sense
Re:Dark spot under cockpit of A-10s by Nrsolis on Saturday March 08, 2014 @10:48AM (#7365460)
The problem isn't the drone airframe. It's taking the person OUT of the airframe.

Having that pilot in that seat removes the need to replicate the kind of situational awareness you have when you're flying your plane 100-1000 feet off the ground and making passes to identify who is who so you avoid a friendly fire incident. Until we have the kind of immersive, low-latency, realtime kind of virtual reality you'd need, using drones for CAS is a pipe-dream.

Re:Dark spot under cockpit of A-10s by LanceH on Thursday March 06, 2014 @03:34PM (#7356374)
This, right here.

Doing close air support you want A-10 pilots or Marines.

Re:Dark spot under cockpit of A-10s by bdunbar on Thursday March 06, 2014 @10:43PM (#7358410)
When the Air Force first wanted to retire the A-10, there was an article [1] proposal: Give the A-10s to the Marine Corps.

Even if the machine could not be retrofitted for carrier operations, the Corps could fly them from airfields ashore, and would really value an excellent ground-attack aircraft, and would take good extra-special care of them.

[1] in the Marine Corps Gazette I think.

Re:Dark spot under cockpit of A-10s by digitalengineer on Friday March 07, 2014 @01:57AM (#7358898)
What about the depleted uranium bullits the A-10 uses? I read they are are threat to friendly ground forces when they cross the fields the A-10 fired up on? Targets hit by the A-10 basically become biohazard... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium
Re:Dark spot under cockpit of A-10s by tim333 on Friday March 07, 2014 @09:13AM (#7360257)
The A-10 can fire lead ammo as well. The uranium stuff is only needed for tank armour.
Re:Dark spot under cockpit of A-10s by Nrsolis on Friday March 07, 2014 @04:14AM (#7359228)
Ask a soldier or Marine if they'd make that trade. Dead now or dead much much later?