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Re:The new PHP by garethadams on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @01:01PM (#7341840)
Has PHP decided whether it's a language or a framework yet?

EDIT: To clarify, a framework like Rails definitely has a place for including a web server.

Now Ruby has a lightweight web servers in its standard library (but not its core library). Maybe the problem people are seeing with the web server (and it's not a new problem) is the way PHP's core library contains so many things that other languages would leave out as optional includes.

Re:The new PHP by kiiski on Wednesday March 05, 2014 @10:41AM (#7347548)
I think the problem is more likely to be that people here are so predisposed against PHP that they only see the potential problems, and ignore the benefits.