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Re:Idaho law criminalizes secretly filming on farms by JoeAltmaier on Sunday March 02, 2014 @09:36AM (#7329239)
A farm is Somebody's house. I live on one for instance. While we don't torture animals, keep your cameras out of my space anyway thank you.
Re:Idaho law criminalizes secretly filming on farms by tremendo on Sunday March 02, 2014 @10:13AM (#7329358)
> A farm is Somebody's house.

and a food-production facility too? subject to USDA inspections and a whole set of regulations, being that what comes out of it has direct impact on public health?

Certainly there should be provisions to protect the privacy of the people living there, as there should be ways to ensure that also the public good is served and protected.

Re:Idaho law criminalizes secretly filming on farms by boomlinde on Sunday March 02, 2014 @09:41AM (#7329253)
Way to miss my point, which is that this law concerns farms specifically and not homes or workplaces in general. I assume that you deliberately misinterpreted me, so what point are you trying to make?
Re:Idaho law criminalizes secretly filming on farms by JoeAltmaier on Sunday March 02, 2014 @09:51AM (#7329275)
That 'your house' sounded like belittling the parent post. Just sticking up for farm residents. Clearer?
Re:Idaho law criminalizes secretly filming on farms by boomlinde on Sunday March 02, 2014 @10:16AM (#7329365)
I didn't mean to belittle the parent. "My house" was his example. His argument obviously wasn't that he is living at a farm specifically, but that private property should be protected in general, which i whole-heartedly agree with, but doesn't really support his stance on privacy laws that concern farms only.
Re:Idaho law criminalizes secretly filming on farms by nknighthb on Sunday March 02, 2014 @12:54PM (#7329962)
For someone who doesn't torture animals, you're awfully worried about somebody seeing how you treat them.

Your farm is not a house, it is a farm. A house that might happen to sit on the same land parcel is of absolutely no interest to anyone. Your private life simply is not that interesting.

Your commercial operations, which occur outside the house, are an entirely different matter.

Re:Idaho law criminalizes secretly filming on farms by JoeAltmaier on Monday March 03, 2014 @10:37AM (#7334266)
Yeah the old "If you aren't doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about" argument. Used by everybody since the SS. And now the NSA.
Re:Idaho law criminalizes secretly filming on farms by nknighthb on Monday March 03, 2014 @07:40PM (#7337668)
If you're worried about farm operations being recorded, you really must be hiding something. There is no privacy interest here, it's a commercial workplace subject to regulation and inspection, and this is one of the reasons. If you're doing it right, you should welcome the scrutiny as a competitive advantage.

Instead, you're so deathly afraid of it that you think you need to apply something even stronger than the extraordinary privacy protections afforded to homes to your place of employment by criminally punishing your employees for gathering evidence of your wrongdoing.

That is an insane leap unknown to the American legal tradition. You simply do not have a legitimate interest in preventing lawfully-present individuals from reporting your illegal activities.