Re:Russia approves use of military in Ukraine
by ankitml on Saturday March 01, 2014 @12:02PM
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Why are they supposed to adhere to gold standard of western democracy? America seriously needs a reality check. Why such supreme belief in american(western) way of liberty. Rest of the world doesnt kill innocents in drones, guantanamo, libya, iraq ...
Re:Russia approves use of military in Ukraine
by tptacek on Saturday March 01, 2014 @12:58PM
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No, they kill them with paramilitary snipers firing into crowds of demonstrators.
Re:Russia approves use of military in Ukraine
by terranstyler on Saturday March 01, 2014 @12:02PM
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Last time I checked I didn't see any democracy in the Western sense of the word in the western world.
Except for Switzerland maybe
Examples:
Tapping phones without warrant
Searching homes without without warrant
A policy of guilty until proven innocent
Torture
Re:Russia approves use of military in Ukraine
by pron on Saturday March 01, 2014 @12:27PM
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Obviously we have much to live up to. Democracy has always been more ideal than reality. But societies differ in their place along a "democracy" spectrum, and Russia and the Ukraine are much farther from that ideal than the west.
Re:Russia approves use of military in Ukraine
by terranstyler on Saturday March 01, 2014 @12:37PM
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I know, but historically compared there were times when the above 4 "non-democratic behaviors" didn't occur (or they occurred less frequently or at least we didn't know).
I see a tendency away from democracy which in my eyes destroys any credibility of the West to spearhead a democratic movement.
Re:Russia approves use of military in Ukraine
by jdimov on Saturday March 01, 2014 @12:29PM
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The "we" would be the CIA. Has their signature all over it.
I don't know much about this conflict, but neither Russia nor the Ukraine are democracies in the Western sense of the word. I've been to Ukraine once. It felt like the Wild West only without the code of honor you see in the movies.