GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

Re:GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users... by beauSD on Thursday February 27, 2014 @05:01PM (#7315475)

To be more accurate, Jesus' ministry and teaching was a fulfillment of the law (the previous commandments) and the Old Testament, not a replacement. The law is still a valuable resource for Christians in understanding the character and holiness of God, among other things.

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." Jesus speaking in Matthew 5:17

Jesus affirmed the law and called people further into true righteousness, which can never come from following rules, but requires a transformation of the heart that only God can accomplish. That is what He is talking about in the sermon on the mount (Matthew 5).

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Re:GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users... by acqq on Thursday February 27, 2014 @05:27PM (#7315682)

I see you decided to omit Matthew 5:18. Don't pretend it doesn't exist. They are the actual words of Jesus if you believe that the Bible was inspired by god. See my other comment here for more.

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Re:GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users... by beauSD on Thursday February 27, 2014 @05:44PM (#7315784)

I also 'omitted' the rest of the bible. I quoted the whole verse of Matthew 5:17. I don't see any issue with Matthew 5:18 in regards to my statement.

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Re:GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users... by acqq on Thursday February 27, 2014 @06:00PM (#7315888)

It is the next sentence said by Jesus himself, confirming the law of the prophets: "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished."

I don't see heaven and earth passed away, so the laws of the prophets still hold according to Jesus himself. He said that. Written one sentence after the one you quote claiming the opposite. So you decided not to believe what Jesus said. Fine with me. I believe the Bible is written by humans and that the humans invented all the gods.

But anyway we should discuss what GCHQ did with webcam streams of at least millions of people! What is your opinion on that?

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Re:GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users... by beauSD on Thursday February 27, 2014 @06:35PM (#7316103)

You're correct, the law has not passed away. The requirements of it have been fully met (fulfilled) by Christ. By submitting our lives to Christ, his perfect fulfillment of God's law is credited to us, thereby freeing us from the penalty of the law.

This is obviously off topic from the original post, but hopefully it's a valuable conversation. It's actually a really important point that is reiterated throughout the New Testament explicitly and foreshadowed throughout the entire Old Testament.

This is a short helpful explanation http://www.desiringgod.org/articles/how-christ-fulfilled-and...

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Re:GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users... by CamperBob2 on Friday February 28, 2014 @01:09AM (#7317466)

The requirements of it have been fully met (fulfilled) by Christ.

Last time I checked, heaven and earth were still here.

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Re:GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users... by beauSD on Thursday February 27, 2014 @07:30PM (#7316444)

I think we've probably reached the limit of productive conversation on the topic. You seem intent on clinging to a contradiction that doesn't exist in the text. But it was good to discuss it.

Yeah, the GCHQ thing is jacked up but not surprising. The connectedness and anonymity of the digital world and its increasing integration into our lives makes for some pretty scary scenarios.

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