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Re:The $12 Startup by icey on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @06:34PM (#731240)
I don't insist on valuing time fairly from day one. I'm saying that it's intellectually dishonest to say that he turned a $12 domain registration into a $100,000 payday as though there was nothing in between.

The fact of the matter is that making $100,000 from starting up is significantly harder and costlier than it would be to make $100,000 holding down a day job. I know the audience here knows that especially well, and I know that you specifically know that very well. I just feel like it devalues what startups do when people just hand-wave away the fact that being successful necessitates blood, sweat and tears.

Re:The $12 Startup by patio11 on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @07:25PM (#731329)
being successful necessitates blood, sweat and tears

This is one of those Real Scotsman pieces of lore which I think we repeat to flatter ourselves. I bleed a lot less for my startup than my day job, let me tell you.

Re:The $12 Startup by apsurd on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @07:56PM (#731374)
There is work involved in everything.
Re:The $12 Startup by fallentimes on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @08:11PM (#731390)
That's a straw man argument.

Patrick didn't say there wasn't work involved.

Re:The $12 Startup by pbhj on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @08:13PM (#731392)
Even inheritance?
Re:The $12 Startup by apsurd on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @10:05PM (#731535)
It is a state of mind. I just don't like the idea that people write off things to luck, talent, miracles, and gifts from God.

Please note I don't discount these things, and those metaphysical wonders surely do exist (imo), but rather, it is a better builder of character to believe that everything is the result of personal decision and action.

As an aside, this is why I always stay away from the Tim Ferris bickering. Everyone wants to believe he's a fraud. Whether he is or not is not important to me or you. Tim Ferris does things. That's it.

Probably a bit too romantic, but I like movie script endings.