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Re:Objective-C isn't what you think it is by nnq on Wednesday February 26, 2014 @03:16PM (#7307362)
Yep. And the fact that Apple did absolutely nothing to evolve the language into something better shows that they just don't give a fuck about tools and most importantly about their developers! Maybe it's better than C++ or other alternative, maybe XCode is quite good, but this just show that since the days of NeXT (the 80s!), they just don't give a fuck!

...hate to say it, but nowadays the only big company that seems to care about developers and actually gives them cool tools and languages is Microsoft! C# with all its extensions, F# and the cool research they do in the languages area shows one thing: they care about us!

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Re:Objective-C isn't what you think it is by austinz on Wednesday February 26, 2014 @03:32PM (#7307501)
This really isn't true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objective_c#Objective-C_2.0 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objective_c#Automatic_Reference... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objective_c#Blocks

Objective-C also suffers from C interop considerations that make it more difficult to extend and evolve the language than something like C# or Java.

(None of this is to denigrate the wonderful work MS has done when it comes to language innovation.)

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Re:Objective-C isn't what you think it is by irace on Wednesday February 26, 2014 @03:37PM (#7307522)
This is crazy talk. While I'm certainly not saying that Objective-C is perfect, or that Apple shouldn't do more, to say they've done absolutely nothing to evolve the language since the 80s is flat out incorrect. Look at blocks, ARC, object-literals, etc.
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Re:Objective-C isn't what you think it is by program on Wednesday February 26, 2014 @03:32PM (#7307493)
On revision 2.0 and later Apple has included a lot of modern stuff like: ARC, properties, literals, blocks, fast enumeration, etc.
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Re:Objective-C isn't what you think it is by mwfunk on Wednesday February 26, 2014 @03:34PM (#7307507)
No, you don't "hate to say it".
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