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Re:Organic has no health benefits by DanielStraight on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:51PM (#730379)
Right. Who actually thought organic foods had more vitamins?
Re:Organic has no health benefits by easp on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @01:36PM (#730476)
To be fair, I've met more than one pro-organic person who thinks organic foods are more nutritious. These are often the same people who worry about vague things like "toxins" from eating meat.
Re:Organic has no health benefits by hachiya on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @03:07PM (#730754)
Vague? So high cholesterol, hormones, high saturated fat, and heterocyclic amines are essential nutrients and not toxic to our bodies?
Re:Organic has no health benefits by req2 on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @03:28PM (#730797)
Re:Organic has no health benefits by hachiya on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @03:45PM (#730843)
Pop science doesn't vindicate textbook science which still discourages high amounts of saturated fat.

And the Massai (and Inuit) referred to in your link are hardly good examples. They have short lifespans (as low as in the 40s), suffer from atherosclerosis and thickening of the arteries. The Inuit are also not long lived and have a high rate of osteoporosis. These groups' "adaptation" to a high protein meat diet is hardly desirable. They are forced to eat a high meat diet out of circumstances, not as a chosen optimal way of life.

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/95/1/26

American Journal of Epidemiology Vol. 95, No. 1: 26-37

ATHEROSCLEROSIS IN THE MASAI

Re:Organic has no health benefits by req2 on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @04:00PM (#730881)
Thanks for providing a more interesting response than GP.

In the absence of 'textbook' science citations, I'm going to have to rely on 'pop' science that does provide citations to respected scientists at accredited institutions who have performed actual studies.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/saturated-fat-healthy/ provides another copious set of links to refutations (based on citations, not appeals) of traditional saturated fat studies and other indications of its overly maligned status.

I'll also note the penultimate sentence of the abstract you link: "The Masai vessels enlarge with age to more than compensate for this disease."

Exercise or not, it's worth noting that the study does not draw any strong correlation between saturated fat and a decreased health.

Re:Organic has no health benefits by biohacker42 on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @03:53PM (#730859)
It is speculated that the Masai are protected from their atherosclerosis by physical fitness which causes their coronary vessels to be capacious.

Exercise, exercise, exercise.

Re:Organic has no health benefits by hachiya on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @05:23PM (#731087)
I'd prefer to not need to be "protected" from a preventable condition in the first place, and fully enjoy the benefits of exercise as well.
Re:Organic has no health benefits by biohacker42 on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @03:41PM (#730824)
Yes, saturated fats are the molecular basis of many hormones including testosterone and estrogen. You may need very little of them but you do need some.
Re:Organic has no health benefits by req2 on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @03:44PM (#730839)
Did you notice the link and decide to respond with a non sequitur, or just miss the link?
Re:Organic has no health benefits by biohacker42 on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @03:48PM (#730849)
I noticed it was a link to men's health and my latent homophobia prevented me from rtfa. (I am only half joking.)