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Re:Real money, invested with algorithms by darkmighty on Tuesday February 25, 2014 @10:51PM (#7302782)
Efficient market hypothesis discussions are pointless imo, because it's obviously untrue, and obviously approximately true. It's trivial to create cases for both but there's not a credible test to how good the approximation is, what are it's failure modes and critical points, where the inefficiencies are amplified, and so on.

In the end it's just an assumption in economic papers so they can be correct in some sense.

Re:Real money, invested with algorithms by lutusp on Wednesday February 26, 2014 @03:50AM (#7303742)
> Efficient market hypothesis discussions are pointless imo, because it's obviously untrue ...

So cash in. Since you think the EMH is "obviously untrue", you can drain the market of its capital based on your proven theory and your inside track on the truth.

In fact, plenty of evidence suggests that the EMH is true, but that the present equities market can't reliably demonstrate this fact because of widespread cheating.

I should add that, because of the nature of equities trading and markets in general, it's very doubtful that anyone will ever prove this issue one way or another in a scientific sense.

Re:Real money, invested with algorithms by grey-area on Wednesday February 26, 2014 @04:36AM (#7303880)
you can drain the market of its capital based on your proven theory and your inside track on the truth

irrational != predictable ∴ markets cannot be accurately modelled

the EMH is true, but that the present equities market can't reliably demonstrate this fact because of widespread cheating

real markets != efficient and real markets != fair ∴ EMH is false for real markets

Re:Real money, invested with algorithms by magnusjonsson on Wednesday February 26, 2014 @09:03AM (#7304908)
Side remark: Please don't use equality and inequality like that. How can a noun and an adjective possibly be equal? They aren't even the same word class. Just use english "is" and "is not" to connect your nouns and adjectives。
Re:Real money, invested with algorithms by bitcuration on Thursday February 27, 2014 @07:20PM (#7316386)
true? (is == equality)

don't think so.