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Re:Salted Password Hashing – Doing it Right by a3n on Sunday February 23, 2014 @09:12AM (#7285928)
> I hate when passwords require certain patterns.

I think people started doing this when passwords were typically short, to increase the search space. Although one unwanted side effect is that it also reduces the search space, since if you know that pattern requirement then you know not to brute force anything that doesn't have two letters, two digits etc.

But assuming a required pattern of a certain length does the job (whatever the system administrators think "the job" is), I wonder how much longer a password needs to be, with no pattern requirement, and be as difficult or more to crack than the shorter patterned password.

Re:Salted Password Hashing – Doing it Right by yeukhon on Sunday February 23, 2014 @09:39AM (#7285997)
I think a good password would be something like, instead of writing the letter "a" in ascii, you use "a" in another encoding (I forgot what that called). I supposed no one ever thought of cracking such password yet.

The worst I have seen is from USCIS. See this image: http://i.imgur.com/hvyziAx.png

Re:Salted Password Hashing – Doing it Right by eru on Sunday February 23, 2014 @10:48PM (#7288985)
> I supposed no one ever thought of cracking such password yet.

Good luck with that!

Re:Salted Password Hashing – Doing it Right by eru on Sunday February 23, 2014 @10:48PM (#7288988)
I wonder where the no $ comes from.
Re:Salted Password Hashing – Doing it Right by M2Ys4U on Sunday February 23, 2014 @09:24AM (#7285959)
>I think people started doing this when passwords were typically short, to increase the search space.

What annoys me most is when systems have a maximum password length which is something on the order of 10-12 characters. It's needlessly reducing the search space.

Re:Salted Password Hashing – Doing it Right by mistercow on Sunday February 23, 2014 @12:47PM (#7286680)
Similarly, when they disallow ordinary ascii characters like punctuation and spaces.
Re:Salted Password Hashing – Doing it Right by a3n on Sunday February 23, 2014 @01:42PM (#7286950)
Well, then they're harder to format when printing. :)
Re:Salted Password Hashing – Doing it Right by nitrogen on Sunday February 23, 2014 @01:10PM (#7286781)
"I wonder how much longer..."

This may help: http://xkcd.com/936/