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Re:The Game Changed in Venezuela Last Night and the Media Is... by the_watcher on Thursday February 20, 2014 @07:27PM (#7274660)
Venezuela has one of the most notoriously corrupt and likely rigged election systems out there. No sane person thinks the election results were accurate.
Re:The Game Changed in Venezuela Last Night and the Media Is... by cdelsolar on Thursday February 20, 2014 @07:53PM (#7274761)
You will need to provide proof for this other than "I said so". The electoral system in Venezuela has been audited numerous times by international organizations and deemed to be fair. PLEASE try to understand that the Venezuela you see on the news is not close to the majority of the country. Most of the country is still quite poor, but - they have voting power!

- A Venezuelan expat

Re:The Game Changed in Venezuela Last Night and the Media Is... by 1zq on Thursday February 20, 2014 @10:26PM (#7275282)
The electoral system itself can be audited and found to be fair. However, it's unfair to:

* Abuse the State's massive control of the media in favor of the ruling party.

* Threaten people, fire them from their government positions, deny scholarships, or otherwise attack people for being against the government(see: Lista Tascón).

* Shamelessly use resources of the State for political propaganda in favor of the ruling party.

* Take power away from elected officials and create alternate institutions to replace them, when the electoral results don't favor the ruling party (see: Caracas Mayor).

* Deny audits after an election, an integral part of fair elections.

* Finally: kill, attack or detain people for opposing the ruling party, which is what's going on as of this moment while we type comments here.

So whether the voting machines work correctly is far from the only thing needed to consider elections fair.

- Another Venezuelan expat

Re:The Game Changed in Venezuela Last Night and the Media Is... by kenrikm on Thursday February 20, 2014 @10:25PM (#7275277)
I happen to know someone (through a third party) who grew up with Chavez and was very close to him up until the last few years prior to his death. Early elections were legit, after that they were all rigged.
Re:The Game Changed in Venezuela Last Night and the Media Is... by fiatjaf on Thursday February 20, 2014 @10:55PM (#7275356)
I believe this.
Re:The Game Changed in Venezuela Last Night and the Media Is... by fiatjaf on Thursday February 20, 2014 @11:04PM (#7275382)
Are you serious? Did you follow the elections? All the surveys were saying Maduro would lose, then he wins by 500 votes?