Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core, And It’s Likely AT&T’s Fault

Re:Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core, And It’s Likely AT&T... by blasdel on Monday July 27, 2009 @10:23PM (#727303)

Oh man, AT&T might be rotten, but Verizon is actively evil when it comes to this. Like cackling Emperor Palpatine levels of evil.

They heavily modify the software running on the phones they sell, and they don't allow any others on their network.

  Modifications include:
  * Shoving their logo into every orifice
  * Leasing you access to the GPS chip in your phone (or even the E911 data)
  * disabling all file transfer methods to try to get you to pay for MMS
  * disabling native Exchange support to upsell you to enterprise bullshit
  * blocking any media content that doesn't come through their bizdev
  * Still pushing motherfucking WAP (Gopher over telegram, I tell you)

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Re:Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core, And It’s Likely AT&T... by joshu on Tuesday July 28, 2009 @01:38AM (#727505)

I have a Blackberry 8830 on Verizon. I'm loathe to switch carriers or phones.

The customer service is pretty great. I have access to the GPS. I've been able to get media on and off the phone as necessary. It has unlimited network connectivity and tethering.

I'm not convinced they're any worse than any other carrier.

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Re:Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core, And It’s Likely AT&T... by iamwil on Tuesday July 28, 2009 @09:57AM (#727882)

I think the OP's points were that they're hostile to developers, and the software that they'd like to deploy.

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Re:Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core, And It’s Likely AT&T... by siong1987 on Tuesday July 28, 2009 @12:52AM (#727454)

In fact, most of the carriers here are fucked up.

Most of the asia carriers would compete over their services(no carrier-locked phone). But, in US, it seems like most of the carriers are competing over what phones they can provide.

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Re:Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core, And It’s Likely AT&T... by jrockway on Tuesday July 28, 2009 @01:59AM (#727522)

Sort of. The GSM providers don't know/care if you use a random GSM phone on their network. Of course, if you rent their GSM phone, they are not going to let you use it on a different GSM network.

(People seem to want free phones, and then seem confused when the person that gave you the free phone doesn't want you to use it on the competitor's network. If you buy your own phone, you can use it wherever you want.)

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Re:Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core, And It’s Likely AT&T... by siong1987 on Tuesday July 28, 2009 @09:19PM (#729239)

In Asia, you can get free unlocked phones just by signing up a contract.

In US, you get free locked phones and you still have to sign the contract.

You see the difference? If you have already signed the contract, why do the carrier still has to lock your phone to its network?

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Re:Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core, And It’s Likely AT&T... by jcromartie on Tuesday July 28, 2009 @08:01AM (#727759)

They're competing over how much they can get away with.

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