Your Path to a $16B exit? Build a J2ME App

Re:Your Path to a $16B exit? Build a J2ME App by corresation on Thursday February 20, 2014 @07:34AM (#7270414)

the 80% of android phones that are cheap and basic with small data plans and limited access to slow wifi

Ignoring the fictional statistics, the cheap devices (e.g. Xiaomi) in countries like China still tend to be surprisingly powerful, and you hardly need to design down to them. And it's a rare app, beyond something like video conferencing, that puts any real burden on connectivity.

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Re:Your Path to a $16B exit? Build a J2ME App by netcan on Thursday February 20, 2014 @10:39AM (#7271275)

It is pretty much fictional, or rather arbitrary because you can draw the line between low and high end wherever you want. I actually got it from here:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/11/12/idc-data-shows-66-...

And it turns out I misrepresented the fictional statistic. The "real" number is 66%. Though I suppose if you count older mid tier models (this counts sales) still in use, 80% might be pretty close.

IMO you still need to design dow a bit, especially for data poor users. Also smaller screens. In some cases I think craigslist is the thing to emulate.

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Re:Your Path to a $16B exit? Build a J2ME App by corresation on Thursday February 20, 2014 @04:46PM (#7273855)

The "real" number is 66%

While I don't normally agree with dismissing something from the source -- in this case Apple Insider -- the way that the article digs to try to generate their manufactured numbers borders on comical. Secondly, the metric that it is "junk" (the article's word) because the ASP is $200+ is asinine, if you will. As is the notion that such makes it a "feature phone" (where ASPs were in the LOW double digits).

A $200 device in many Asian markets is a decidedly premium device. The Xiaomi Redmi, for instance, is a $139 (retail!) decidedly decent mid-range device. In no way does anyone have to design down at all for devices like that, the notion being absurd.

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Re:Your Path to a $16B exit? Build a J2ME App by netcan on Friday February 21, 2014 @04:31AM (#7276112)

I agree. OTOH, justifying with facts that there are a lot of Android phones in use that are several steps under the S4 in terms of hardware and data/wifi availability & affordability is almost superflous.

Androids are penetrating markets that were never penetrated by PCs or the web or even residential electricity.

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Re:Your Path to a $16B exit? Build a J2ME App by stefan_kendall on Thursday February 20, 2014 @08:16AM (#7270567)

You absolutely need to "design down" if you want to support all of android. Go build an app with a reasonable number of users and you'll learn this the hard way.

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Re:Your Path to a $16B exit? Build a J2ME App by corresation on Thursday February 20, 2014 @09:04AM (#7270741)

Good thing I never said "all of android", as there will always be edges that in many cases aren't even worth targeting.

I did, however, say that many of the cheap phones are quite powerful. And they are. And as someone who has several widely deployed games on Android -- one category where there is much more demands than categories like WhatsApp -- it is absolutely no problem at all.

I generally test things on the Nexus One just as a bottom end comparator. Compared to many of the devices from bottom-tier manufacturers now, the Nexus One is grossly underpowered. It is always surprising what it can run with gusto.

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