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Re:Lisp outside the Box (O'Reilly book) by polos on Sunday July 26, 2009 @04:28PM (#724850)
Fiction again? Are your dreams more real than reality? You're not doing a real favor to science.

Science always has to be concrete and repeatable (as you well know). You already make my head ache, really badly...

Please remember: science can reach only that far, it has real limits, which nobody is able to extend, and which we all need to respect.

P.S: The principle of any life in Nature is called it's soul, which is invisible, and which only lasts as long as the life persists. So, every plant has its (simple) soul, and science until now has no clue whatsoever what even the simplest form of these souls are consisting of -- as they are, in fact, outside of our physical universe...

Re:Lisp outside the Box (O'Reilly book) by Scriptor on Sunday July 26, 2009 @05:07PM (#724890)
How do any of those break any limits of science? Please, I'd love to know. Maybe you think I'm talking about Matrix-style robots and have decided that I'm just being silly. I'm not. A simple bot that has the capability of manufacturing more of itself won't be that hard, consider that most modern factories are highly automated.

Oh, as for your soul principle, do you have any concrete evidence, any proof?

Are you actually saying that science has limits because it doesn't conform to your belief system?

Re:Lisp outside the Box (O'Reilly book) by polos on Monday July 27, 2009 @04:33AM (#725592)
So, you say that it would (in theory) be possible, that the human brain could create something more intelligent than itself?

Come on, that's ridiculous.

(Like the evolution theory, which is completely ridiculous, as it says that a less intelligent being can "auto-evovle" into something more intelligent...)

At this point, any discussion is pointless, as we already completely substitute reality with fiction.

Re:Lisp outside the Box (O'Reilly book) by Scriptor on Monday July 27, 2009 @08:47AM (#725751)
Since you:

hardly seem to read my comments

completely misinterpret what you do read

respond by calling everything fiction or ridiculous

and throw around equally baseless claims of your own.

Yes, this is discussion is over.

Re:Lisp outside the Box (O'Reilly book) by polos on Tuesday July 28, 2009 @07:34AM (#727739)
What a happy end, we finally agree.