Re:Ministers bid to block extremist videos posted on foreign...
by SixSigma on Saturday February 15, 2014 @03:38PM
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Very disturbing turn of events
> Last October, Prime Minister David Cameron condemned Facebook's decision to allow videos showing people being decapitated back on its pages.
> He said it was "irresponsible" of the social network.
Watching videos of LiveLeak of people being executed by all the sides in Syria, Iraq, Chechnya, Lybia, Afghanistan has taught me more about those conflicts than the BBC, CNN etc. The narco Cartels releasing videos of their hideous torture and murder has totally changed my mind about the cocaine trade.
The truth is liberating. Cameron is unwittingly turning himself into the King Canute of myth, trying to prove that he can turn off the tide of truth. Canute was trying to demonstrate the powerlessness of kings. Cameron thinks he has power. He will get wet feet just the same.
Re:Ministers bid to block extremist videos posted on foreign...
by DanBC on Saturday February 15, 2014 @07:02PM
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This is a different filter-attempt than the porn filter. As the article says that can be turned off. This is more in line with the piracy filters, but implemented by government not the courts after private cases.
The big brother spokesperson suggests that if content is to be blocked it should be after a court order. I'd prefer for most of it not to be blocked.
> Last October, Prime Minister David Cameron condemned Facebook's decision to allow videos showing people being decapitated back on its pages.
That was a weird decision, especially when they had earlier been deleting images of breast feeding women.
Re:Ministers bid to block extremist videos posted on foreign...
by DerpDerpDerp on Saturday February 15, 2014 @07:58PM
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My point was more general than about a specific blocking methodology: that people who were defending specific blocks all pointed out how they would be targeted, but the social acceptance of one seems to encourage people to try for more.
Re:Ministers bid to block extremist videos posted on foreign...
by DanBC on Saturday February 15, 2014 @09:14PM
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But there have always been calls to block those three things.
Sinn Fein members used to have their voices dubbed in news broadcasts because of UK law and that was in the 1980s.
Material useful for terrorism has been illegal for some time. This article talks about not just keeping those videos illegal but blocking them from entering the country. That's not a new thing. The UK has been preventing plenty of material from entering the country if they can.
The UK has censored some forms of pornography for many years, and people importing magazines would have had them removed.
This "slippery slope" argument fails not because there isn't a slippery slope, but because we're so far down it already and have been for years.
Re:Ministers bid to block extremist videos posted on foreign...
by acqq on Sunday February 16, 2014 @01:40AM
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Regarding the material on the Facebook and co, since such material is behind SSL inside of a widely used sites, the government will request the certificates to be able to do the protection.
Re:Ministers bid to block extremist videos posted on foreign...
by kalleboo on Saturday February 15, 2014 @05:32PM
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> The BBC has also been told it has proved difficult for the government to act against sites hosted abroad, both in the Middle East and in the US, where freedom of speech is protected by the constitution.
As a European, I'm a bit jealous of US free speech protections.
Re:Ministers bid to block extremist videos posted on foreign...
by dobbsbob on Saturday February 15, 2014 @06:52PM
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That's why most authors have moved there like Rushdie and Hitchens claimed to have moved to the US because of the stifling UK slander laws where any politician could accuse a critic of slander and the onus was on the critic to prove they haven't slandered instead of the other way around.
Still, not like politicians in the US haven't tried to dismantle free speech protections under the phony excuse of "hate speech" remember the Obama administration pressuring youtube to censor that "innocence of muslims" video?
Meanwhile in my pathetic country, silly anti-bullying reactionary legislation has led to all sorts of censorship on written "bullying" prose, and of course politicians were the first to use the laws against each other and their critics.
Re:Ministers bid to block extremist videos posted on foreign...
by betawolf33 on Saturday February 15, 2014 @04:23PM
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Oh yes, we must protect people from being exposed to certain ideas. Else they might be convinced those ideas are true. This is for everyone's protection.
> Last October, Prime Minister David Cameron condemned Facebook's decision to allow videos showing people being decapitated back on its pages. > He said it was "irresponsible" of the social network.
Watching videos of LiveLeak of people being executed by all the sides in Syria, Iraq, Chechnya, Lybia, Afghanistan has taught me more about those conflicts than the BBC, CNN etc. The narco Cartels releasing videos of their hideous torture and murder has totally changed my mind about the cocaine trade.
The truth is liberating. Cameron is unwittingly turning himself into the King Canute of myth, trying to prove that he can turn off the tide of truth. Canute was trying to demonstrate the powerlessness of kings. Cameron thinks he has power. He will get wet feet just the same.
And then just for pirates and porn?
Now coming to you based on being an extremist in the eyes of government!
The big brother spokesperson suggests that if content is to be blocked it should be after a court order. I'd prefer for most of it not to be blocked.
> Last October, Prime Minister David Cameron condemned Facebook's decision to allow videos showing people being decapitated back on its pages.
That was a weird decision, especially when they had earlier been deleting images of breast feeding women.
Sinn Fein members used to have their voices dubbed in news broadcasts because of UK law and that was in the 1980s.
Material useful for terrorism has been illegal for some time. This article talks about not just keeping those videos illegal but blocking them from entering the country. That's not a new thing. The UK has been preventing plenty of material from entering the country if they can.
The UK has censored some forms of pornography for many years, and people importing magazines would have had them removed.
This "slippery slope" argument fails not because there isn't a slippery slope, but because we're so far down it already and have been for years.
As a European, I'm a bit jealous of US free speech protections.
Still, not like politicians in the US haven't tried to dismantle free speech protections under the phony excuse of "hate speech" remember the Obama administration pressuring youtube to censor that "innocence of muslims" video?
Meanwhile in my pathetic country, silly anti-bullying reactionary legislation has led to all sorts of censorship on written "bullying" prose, and of course politicians were the first to use the laws against each other and their critics.