95% of climate models agree: the observations must be wrong

Re:95% of climate models agree: the observations must be wrong by marcus_holmes on Friday February 14, 2014 @10:09PM (#7242484)

Let me get this right: you're saying that human emissions of CO2 need to be reduced in order to mitigate climate change regardless of whether CO2 emissions cause any warming?

If humans caused 100% of the change then we can stop causing it. If humans caused 0% of the change then we can't stop causing it and must adapt to it. If humans caused 50% of the change, then we can stop some of it but will have to adapt to the rest.

Obviously the premise has a huge bearing on the action we can and should take.

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Re:95% of climate models agree: the observations must be wrong by polemic on Saturday February 15, 2014 @01:10AM (#7242885)

Firstly, I said it was in invention. It's an argument that has the benefit of never having to provide any sort of evidence to back it up.

But since I'm forced to attack the strawman: let me put it another way: if humans are responsible for less warming than 100%, then we're going to have to do more to mitigate our effects, because we have to mitigate more human behaviour for the same outcome.

Until we're making meaningful changes - yet to happen - it's utterly irrelevant if we've caused 50%, or 100%.

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