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Re:John Yudkin: the man who tried to warn us about sugar by leoedin on Wednesday February 12, 2014 @05:22AM (#7223522)
Most people eat sugar. In fact, I'm willing to bet that the proportion of people in the western world who have eaten sugar is close to 100%.

Not everyone is obese. Even in the US, where obesity is at its worst, it's around 35%. That suggests that 65% of people can consume sugar and then not become obese.

Certainly amongst my peer group of middle class graduates almost everyone eats sugar and almost nobody is obese. That suggests that people are perfectly capable of consuming moderate amounts of sugar without becoming rampant sugar addicts rapidly turning obese.

The physical cause of obesity may be the overconsumption of simple carbohydrates, but the socioeconomic distribution of obesity suggests that there's many factors which drive that consumption.

Re:John Yudkin: the man who tried to warn us about sugar by threeseed on Wednesday February 12, 2014 @06:06AM (#7223675)
You and your peer group are at the age where your metabolism is high.

Try having the same diet when you're in your 40s and I am sure you will have a different experience.

Re:John Yudkin: the man who tried to warn us about sugar by LanceH on Wednesday February 12, 2014 @09:58AM (#7224614)
I'm in my 40's and I'm fat because I sit on my ass all day and eat when I'm not hungry. There is no reason to blame a certain subset of the calories.
Re:John Yudkin: the man who tried to warn us about sugar by blister on Wednesday February 12, 2014 @09:35AM (#7224471)
Shit, 40s? I had to start busting my ass at 28 to not be a fat land whale.
Re:John Yudkin: the man who tried to warn us about sugar by jeffdavis on Wednesday February 12, 2014 @11:58AM (#7225429)
Causation does not require 100% determinism. If X causes Y, it means that inducing X will increase the likelihood of Y.

So counterexamples are not disproof. You'd have to construct a lab experiment with enough subjects and measure over a long enough time.

Unfortunately, it's difficult to construct a perfect double-blind study, because people usually know if they are eating sugar or not. Maybe if artificial sweeteners are good enough it might work, or maybe the experiment would still be convincing even if the subjects know.

I'd be interested to see the results of such a study for sugar and heroin. I probably should be able to cite one before I claim it as fact, but I didn't think it was a very controversial claim. I think it's mainly a question of degree.