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Re:An open letter from the founders of Scribd to those of yo... by gscott on Wednesday October 24, 2007 @05:38PM (#72222)
I would suggest laying out your design in html using a WYSIWYG tool like DreamWeaver. Also write down the "business rules" for each page like "user signs up here, is provisioned an account, is sent an email, and then is forwarded to the administration area"

Then hire someone off of Craigslist (or similar venue) to add a backend to it. If you could spend one or two thousand you could get enough put together to have a demo to show others.

Re:An open letter from the founders of Scribd to those of yo... by plinkplonk on Thursday October 25, 2007 @12:26AM (#72350)
I'd suggest finding someone who is a good coder and if he is not interested in working for you, ask him for a recommendation. I am based in Bangalore and see first hand the horrific results that occur when people pick the cheapest person/team from a webpage. The best coders don't advertise on Craigslist

if anyone on YC News wants a reccomendation of good coders from Bangalore, write to me at my email id. (No you don't have to pay me, - I have enough on my plate already- and yes you should have an idea exciting to hackers).

Re:An open letter from the founders of Scribd to those of yo... by joeguilmette on Wednesday October 24, 2007 @06:31PM (#72243)
right now what we're doing is 1 step below that.

we're laying everything out in this program called conceptdraw, hoping we can give that document to a developer and be like "see, this is what we want."

that's a great suggestion though, we might end up having to do that.

Re:An open letter from the founders of Scribd to those of yo... by kogir on Wednesday October 24, 2007 @11:10PM (#72327)
No offense, but I would have posted almost the exact same "advice" as a sarcastic joke.

If you follow that advice, make sure that you don't make the mistake of thinking that you can build the real service on top of whatever the guy from craigslist throws together.

I don't think you'll have much luck unless you can find one or more coders who're as excited about your idea as you are, and who you respect enough to treat as equals.

I've seen a few friends take coding jobs like the one you're planning to fill, and while they got their pay, the people who hired them never truly got what they wanted.

Re:An open letter from the founders of Scribd to those of yo... by mynameishere on Wednesday October 24, 2007 @11:15PM (#72329)
I knew of one such instance where a bunch of MBAs outsourced their idea to a single Indian coder. He did a passable job, but the app was full of bugs. And that's when they realized that a .war file doesn't contain source code.
Re:An open letter from the founders of Scribd to those of yo... by gscott on Wednesday October 24, 2007 @11:33PM (#72332)
You can't replace knowing what the code does and if the code is good code. However you can get passable demo code from anyone. I believe the poster was talking about a small spend to get a demo not build FaceBook with millions of users.
Re:An open letter from the founders of Scribd to those of yo... by brianr on Wednesday October 24, 2007 @07:02PM (#72252)
I'd strongly recommend making at least some sort of visual wireframe, whether it's in powerpoint, on paper, in dreamweaver, etc. Chances are you have a general idea of what you want the first version to look like, and showing the developer what you have in mind will both make it easier for him and make it more likely that he'll make what you want.
Re:An open letter from the founders of Scribd to those of yo... by joeguilmette on Thursday October 25, 2007 @12:24AM (#72348)
i mean, we're making a very specific page by page layout in conceptdraw.

it seems people have a lot to say about this, which is great. i'll probly put up a standalone discussion thread in a bit.

we understand it's going to be damn near impossible to find someone to make a perfect, usable product. that's not what we want.

we want someone to build us an ugly, barely functioning beta, just enough to get a few users on, in closed beta, to prove that it works and such. we just want a demo.