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Re:Broken by design: systemd by ZeroGravitas on Monday February 10, 2014 @08:23AM (#7210826)
That actually strikes me as a more reasonable objection than many I've heard. On the other hand, systemd is actually in use in various places, so bugs are being looked for and found, so this process doesn't begin with Debian's adoption and you're back to balancing probababilities the same as you would with any change.
Re:Broken by design: systemd by belorn on Monday February 10, 2014 @08:46AM (#7210979)
> Debian's adoption

In this case, adoption means moving systemd from being optional to default. Debian has had systemd in use for quite a while now with current statistics at 7.5% of all installation (accordingly to popcon http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=systemd).

Re:Broken by design: systemd by bbanyc on Monday February 10, 2014 @09:45AM (#7211289)
Package names are a bit confusing here. The systemd package includes all the binaries - one of which, logind, is required by GNOME - but doesn't install systemd as /sbin/init and doesn't boot with it by default. The package to do that is called systemd-sysv, for reasons having to do with the special treatment of sysvinit as a "required" package in dpkg.

So 7.5% of Debian systems have it installed, but only about 0.3% (plus however many of that 7.5% that are setting init=systemd in GRUB) are using it.

Re:Broken by design: systemd by ibotty on Monday February 10, 2014 @01:07PM (#7212558)
setting init=/sbin/systemd in the kernel cmdline is the recommended way, so i guess the 7.5% do count as using systemd.