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Re:Google turns on "Download Gmail Archive" feature by LoganCale on Saturday February 08, 2014 @09:05PM (#7203903)
I'd certainly leave immediately.
Re:Google turns on "Download Gmail Archive" feature by meese_ on Saturday February 08, 2014 @10:37PM (#7204230)
Why haven't you already?
Re:Google turns on "Download Gmail Archive" feature by LoganCale on Saturday February 08, 2014 @11:04PM (#7204318)
Because it's a hassle and it's easier to keep using it so far, and the alternatives aren't as nice in other ways. It's going to be a bigger pain to do it once I'm forced to, but…
Re:Google turns on "Download Gmail Archive" feature by nandhp on Saturday February 08, 2014 @11:09PM (#7204332)
I haven't left because:

(1) I don't have a server where I can run my own mail infrastructure -- I don't think my ISP would be happy with me running a mail server off my cable modem). And

(2) I don't trust Outlook.com not to silently discard mail from randomly selected senders (as I believe Hotmail was known to do). Gmail is reliable.

But otherwise, I'm ready. I've already stopped using the Gmail web interface (retaliation for killing Google Reader). And once I'm no longer tied to Gmail anymore, I can switch to a better IMAP client than Thunderbird.

Re:Google turns on "Download Gmail Archive" feature by meese_ on Saturday February 08, 2014 @11:26PM (#7204371)
Have you tried Fastmail? I switched to them a while ago and haven't looked back. Their web UI isn't as nice, but they have an honest business model with a much better privacy policy and migrating is pretty straightforward.
Re:Google turns on "Download Gmail Archive" feature by danieldk on Sunday February 09, 2014 @02:52AM (#7204791)
Their web UI isn't as nice,

I like their web UI better than GMail. It is cleaner than GMail and much faster most of the time. It's also worth noting that they now have a beta version of a calendar (with CalDAV) support:

http://blog.fastmail.fm/2014/01/23/calendar-now-available-on...

And they are apparently working on CardDAV.

Re:Google turns on "Download Gmail Archive" feature by msh on Monday February 10, 2014 @03:20AM (#7209761)
I have a fastmail account, it is worse than gmail in these respects:

- the spam filter is not very effective. I have marked as spam a certain kind of spammy newsletters many times but they still come throught.

- No calendar or contacts you can sync to your phone.

Re:Google turns on "Download Gmail Archive" feature by stock_toaster on Saturday February 08, 2014 @11:43PM (#7204410)
Another anecdote here -- I also use them and like the service.
Re:Google turns on "Download Gmail Archive" feature by alextingle on Sunday February 09, 2014 @04:10AM (#7204942)
In all fairness, every mail server discards mail from some senders. Your junk folder would explode if everything got through.
Re:Google turns on "Download Gmail Archive" feature by janinge on Sunday February 09, 2014 @05:07AM (#7205043)
Hopefully they reject this mail, not simply discard it.
Re:Google turns on "Download Gmail Archive" feature by mikeash on Saturday February 08, 2014 @11:44PM (#7204412)
I'm not him, but I'm in the same situation: I currently use Gmail almost exclusively through IMAP, and I'd jump ship instantaneously if they turned it off.

Why haven't I left already? Because it works fine and does everything I need.

Why would I leave? The way you ask, you seem to think it's obvious, but I have no idea.

Re:Google turns on "Download Gmail Archive" feature by XorNot on Sunday February 09, 2014 @12:13AM (#7204466)
Yeah if IMAP access goes on Gmail that would be it for me.

I'd probably bounce back to hosting my own IMAP and using some utility to download my Gmail to it with Push or whatever protocol (HTTP?) that Gmail uses for push.

It would be nice to have Sieve scripts again to filter my mail (Gmail's filtering leaves much to be desired).