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Re:Personal observations on the reliability of the Shuttle (... by rst on Saturday February 08, 2014 @05:35PM (#7203119)
Buran was carried piggy-back on an expendable rocket (Energia), with no attempt at reusable main engines, less aggressive engineering on the expendable main engines than the SSMEs, and no SRBs. (The equivalent function was performed by liquid-fueled strap-ons.) The Buran orbiter looked a lot like the Shuttle, but the systems as a whole were engineered rather differently.
Re:Personal observations on the reliability of the Shuttle (... by makomk on Saturday February 08, 2014 @07:03PM (#7203502)
Also, the sole flight of the Buran was entirely unmanned - unlike the Space Shuttle, which had less sophisticated automation and required a pilot onboard to land the thing, Buran was capable of entirely automatic landing. The difference was probably mostly the result of political rather than technical reasons though.
Re:Personal observations on the reliability of the Shuttle (... by robryk on Saturday February 08, 2014 @07:35PM (#7203604)
The only reason Space Shuttle has required a pilot when landing from the point when the re-entry burn has started was to push a button that lowered the landing gear at a proper point in time. In fact, there was some equipment stored on the ISS that, if installed, would allow the Shuttle to land autonomously (the intended use for that was deorbiting a Shuttle with significant tile damage).
Re:Personal observations on the reliability of the Shuttle (... by nickff on Saturday February 08, 2014 @07:15PM (#7203545)
It is unclear whether Buran's autopilot is more or less complex than the Space Shuttle's fly-by-wire system. The pilot's inputs are the outer loop of a very complex feedback control system on the space shuttle; one need only look at how stable SS Columbia was on its last re-entry (despite heavy damage,) to appreciate the fly-by-wire system.
Re:Personal observations on the reliability of the Shuttle (... by guard-of-terra on Saturday February 08, 2014 @05:59PM (#7203243)
But it still had tiles, right?
Re:Personal observations on the reliability of the Shuttle (... by tanzam75 on Saturday February 08, 2014 @07:46PM (#7203635)
Yes, the Buran had tiles.

However, it was not vulnerable to falling foam, because the Soviets put the insulation on the inside of the Energia: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20664-cosmonaut-soviet...

That having been said, it's still not safe enough. For example, what about a birdstrike or other debris? A small capsule on top of the stack would have a protective shroud while it is in the atmosphere, and the heatshield is at the bottom anyway. The Shuttle/Buran design was too big to protect in this way.

Re:Personal observations on the reliability of the Shuttle (... by ericcumbee on Sunday February 09, 2014 @01:15AM (#7204603)
From my understanding a Bird Strike during launch would only occur very early in the flight, where the shuttle was still traveling at a relatively low speed.
Re:Personal observations on the reliability of the Shuttle (... by tanzam75 on Sunday February 09, 2014 @02:10AM (#7204715)
> From my understanding a Bird Strike during launch would only occur very early in the flight, where the shuttle was still traveling at a relatively low speed.

There are a number of birds that can fly up to 10,000 feet. At 10,000 feet, the Shuttle is doing half the speed of sound. Hitting a bird at 10,000 feet would've been no picnic.

(In fact, the altitude record for birds is above 30,000 feet -- but these are unlikely to be found in Florida.)

Soyuz and Shenzhou both have a payload fairing that covers the entire spacecraft. Apollo had a partial shroud that covered the command module. These spacecraft do not even have an exposed heatshield during launch. Apollo didn't even need a fairing for aerodynamic reasons -- but it still had one anyway.