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Re:Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web by doctoboggan on Thursday February 06, 2014 @02:59PM (#7192585)
Perfect timing, I just released a tool that enabled a more decentralized web. It used BitTorrent Sync to distribute files and I plan on implementing namecoin or colored coins for name resolution. As soon as an open source, stable btsync clone is released I plan on swapping it in.

The biggest drawback is that you can only serve static content, although I think many websites today would be fine with this restriction.

You can read more on my website: http://jack.minardi.org/software/syncnet-a-decentralized-web...

Follow along with the development on github here: https://github.com/jminardi/syncnet

Re:Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web by Sir_Cmpwn on Thursday February 06, 2014 @09:02PM (#7194379)
BitTorrent Sync is the wrong foundation for this revolution. It should be open source from top to bottom.
Re:Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web by ekianjo on Thursday February 06, 2014 @11:11PM (#7194755)
Come on, the guy even mentioned himself in the above post "As soon as an open source, stable btsync clone is released I plan on swapping it in.", what's the point of re-emphasizing that point? He obviously knows the issue with btsync but it's fine to start building something on top of it in the meantime, just as a proof of concept.
Re:Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web by chroem on Thursday February 06, 2014 @09:54PM (#7194550)
Free software; the term is free software. In other words, software that respects your freedom.

Refer to this: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.htm...

Re:Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web by lukifer on Saturday February 08, 2014 @04:43PM (#7202892)
This is a language battle which will never, ever be won, not even with geeks, let own real people. Invent a new term ("liberated software"), or let it go. It is this sort of ideological pedantry that holds back FOSS adoption.
Re:Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web by Executor on Tuesday February 11, 2014 @02:06PM (#7219619)
Provide better justification rather than "its my opinion".
Re:Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web by lukifer on Tuesday February 11, 2014 @02:29PM (#7219783)
It's a mental "snap-to-grid" problem. The average American hears the word "free", and they immediately think of $0, absent a specific pre-existing linguistic context (free country, free speech, free range). Because software is something that is frequently paid for as a product on a shelf, a non-enthusiast is always going to hear the $0 meaning in their head, even if they've been educated as to its other meaning.

At a high layer of abstraction, neural connections work probabilistically, firing in the path most likely to be a useful pattern; hence, most people will tend to assume "free" means "as in beer". However, a new term like "liberated software" will not trip this pre-existing wiring, forcing a new pathway that doesn't have to compete with the conditioning created by a lifetime of marketing messages ("Free Checking! Free Estimate! Free For The First Year!"... etc)

Re:Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web by Sir_Cmpwn on Thursday February 06, 2014 @10:02PM (#7194576)
And it's not Linux, it's GNU/Linux!
Re:Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web by chroem on Thursday February 06, 2014 @10:11PM (#7194608)
Ordinarily I think Stallman takes that way too far, but in this case the exact motivation behind free software was being described, yet it was still placed under the banner of open source. I think there's a time and a place for both terms, but when you're talking about resisting the NSA, you are (or should be) referring to free software.
Re:Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web by smnrchrds on Friday February 07, 2014 @09:30AM (#7196351)
That statement would make sense if the distros we are using were mainly just Linux kernel + GNU tools. If we are going to give everyone their deserved credit, we should call it GNU/Linux/KDE/Apache/LibreOffice/...

Good thing 4-clause BSD never caught on in the Linux world.

Re:Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web by nodata on Friday February 07, 2014 @03:19AM (#7195297)
open source btsync alternative you say? https://github.com/calmh/syncthing
Re:Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web by p4bl0 on Thursday February 06, 2014 @03:08PM (#7192627)
This is quite nice. You should submit it as a "Show HN". You can be sure that as soon as you have a free software replacement for btsync I'll use it at least to serve my personal website.

By the way, have you heard about Freenet? https://freenetproject.org/

Re:Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web by joshstrange on Thursday February 06, 2014 @03:33PM (#7192762)
He did a few days ago[0] but it didn't get very much attention unfortunately. I only saw it because I spent way too much time on HN that day.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7171978

Re:Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web by doctoboggan on Thursday February 06, 2014 @05:15PM (#7193291)
Yeah I did submit it but it didn't get much attention. I don't know the etiquette on resubmitting items.
Re:Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web by coldpie on Friday February 07, 2014 @08:45AM (#7196178)
Try again when you've got a new feature or make a new release or something else noteworthy. There's always some timing luck to a HN submission.
Re:Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web by mwilcox on Thursday February 06, 2014 @03:38PM (#7192784)
You should team up with the Ethereum project: http://ethereum.org
Re:Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web by xerophtye on Friday February 07, 2014 @12:17AM (#7194934)
While i love your idea, (and am glad you found the context to show your project off again. i read the original post), i do have two nitpicks.

You said it downloads the entire site when i open a site. Now, this is completely fine for normal text-based blogs, but what if it's an image heavy site? Like theChive? Wouldn't i end up storing several gigabits (possibly terrabytes) of data for that site?

Secondly, if somehow we extend the concept to dynamic content (don't ask me how) wouldn't it effectively mean each of us running a server and hosting it on that?

Maybe your idea can be implemented on the server level instead of the client level... like proxy servers doing what you want the clients to do and thus the content would be all over the internet instead of a few specific servers. (not saying that's a good idea btw)

Re:Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web by doctoboggan on Friday February 07, 2014 @02:23PM (#7198163)
BTSync supports selective sync, so I could only fetch the resources that are needed to display the page.
Re:Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web by dclara on Friday February 07, 2014 @02:35AM (#7195223)
Agree. Just like the distributed search engines which are not quite practical in the real use, the concept is cool.
Re:Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web by zooko_LeastAuth on Friday February 07, 2014 @12:04PM (#7197301)
You could consider using Tahoe-LAFS instead of BitTorrent sync. Tahoe-LAFS is open source and stable, but it isn't a clone of btsync, and it might not fit for your purposes.
Re:Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web by fiatjaf on Thursday February 06, 2014 @06:04PM (#7193519)
This is awesome.