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Re:China and "our standard of living" by gaius on Wednesday July 22, 2009 @03:35PM (#718380)
But that isn't true. 10 years ago were you having less fun on the original Playstation than you have on a PS3 now? What about 10 years before that on the Sega Megadrive?

The upgrade treadmill is just fashion and marketing.

Re:China and "our standard of living" by zimbabwe on Wednesday July 22, 2009 @04:14PM (#718456)
Wow, Gaius, somebody's downvoting every one of your posts.

There's a big movement towards emulators among the gamer scene I'm able to observe, because a lot of gamers are realizing that games haven't become fundamentally better in the last decade. Yesterday evening at a friend's, the Wii was forsaken for a Genesis; it's surprising how entertaining those games still are, because we've been conditioned to think you can't have fun without being cutting-edge.

Re:China and "our standard of living" by gaius on Wednesday July 22, 2009 @04:33PM (#718491)
Touched a nerve I guess. Heck, I got 4000+ points, I'll call it like I see it.

You're right, we are conditioned to value the wrong things. The same game with more polygons is the same game.

Re:China and "our standard of living" by jfoutz on Wednesday July 22, 2009 @04:03PM (#718438)
Entertainment competition goes up. More tv, more books, more movies, more games, more music. I don't think i can objectively quantify fun had in a game 10 years ago or a game now. However, I think we can agree that how people spend their leisure time is a pretty good indicator of how much fun activity X is. In the early 80's movies were more fun than video games for just about everybody. Now, you see moms playing games on the wii. I think video games are objectively more fun than the alternatives than they were with their alternatives 20 years ago.
Re:China and "our standard of living" by zimbabwe on Wednesday July 22, 2009 @04:24PM (#718471)
That's because video game consoles are more popular, and they've become more accepted by the media.

30 years ago, my father and his brothers played Atari. I grew up with parents that both understood video games, at least somewhat. There's nothing objective about the way we view video games, or any other form of media.

For instance: I primarily look for media with some sort of emotional power, which is all-but-impossible to find in video games. I can think of perhaps five or six video games that had any emotional impact on me. I can name far more movies that have had a similar impact. My secondary search is for polish, and there movies also have an edge over modern games. The things I look for aren't what you look for, though - they're subjective. I remember having much more fun on an SNES than I did with, say, the Xbox. Your milage varies.

Re:China and "our standard of living" by whughes on Wednesday July 22, 2009 @04:07PM (#718441)
Yes, I was. Online play is a significant improvement, and the gameplay is substantially different. Plus, the PlayStation doesn't have a catalog of new games. In order to continue playing new video games, you have to upgrade.