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Re:Message from Mexico: U.S. Is Polluting Water It May Somed... by mrottenkolber on Thursday January 30, 2014 @02:56PM (#7152955)
Excuse me? Does one of those plants have to blow up in your neighbourhood until you can relate to the fact that some risks are not worth taking?

These things are dirty bombs, period.

Edit: To clarify, I am not arguing for coal. Just against nuclear power. I live next to a garbage->energy and gas turbine plant. It's not perfect, but I wouldn't want to live near a nuclear plant.

Re:Message from Mexico: U.S. Is Polluting Water It May Somed... by lifeformed on Thursday January 30, 2014 @03:23PM (#7153119)
Calculate the chances of that happening and compare it's damage to the thousands of people who die every year from coal usage. Coal is 4000 times deadlier.
Re:Message from Mexico: U.S. Is Polluting Water It May Somed... by jotm on Thursday January 30, 2014 @03:14PM (#7153065)
Coal plants (and their supply chain) are just as dirty without having to blow up...
Re:Message from Mexico: U.S. Is Polluting Water It May Somed... by gaius on Thursday January 30, 2014 @03:18PM (#7153084)
... And actually emit more radiation, traces of uranium in coal just go straight up the chimney...
Re:Message from Mexico: U.S. Is Polluting Water It May Somed... by mikeash on Friday January 31, 2014 @06:15AM (#7156184)
Ironically, the danger of dirty bombs is vastly overblown.
Re:Message from Mexico: U.S. Is Polluting Water It May Somed... by mrottenkolber on Thursday January 30, 2014 @03:21PM (#7153107)
Guess fukushima was too long ago. Oh wait, its still leaking a tons of gene-pool destroying toxin every day.

I knew people first hand who died from chernobyl's toxic rain. Took 10 years for their faces to completely fall apart.

Re:Message from Mexico: U.S. Is Polluting Water It May Somed... by ars on Thursday January 30, 2014 @03:27PM (#7153143)
And coal power is like a constant never ending fukushima.

It's gut, but un-informed feelings like yours that are the cause of so much environmental destruction.

> I knew people first hand who died from chernobyl's toxic rain.

And I know of people who today are suffering from asthma and lung cancer from coal's toxic exhaust. And newsflash: There are way way way way more of them.

Re:Message from Mexico: U.S. Is Polluting Water It May Somed... by mrottenkolber on Thursday January 30, 2014 @03:35PM (#7153193)
Why do you assume I am defending coal?

It's irrational confidence like yours that nuclear power is in any way safe, and therefore a good replacement. Coal doesn't need a replacement, we need to start using energy responsibly. That means not using energy when we don't have it. A nuclear plant is not an acceptable way to generate energy.

Re:Message from Mexico: U.S. Is Polluting Water It May Somed... by Crito on Thursday January 30, 2014 @04:04PM (#7153349)
Arguing against nuclear is de facto arguing for coal. Current options for renewable baseload power generation are limited. This will with any luck change sometime in the future, but in the present less nuclear means more coal.

Using less power is not a realistic proposal. You should not expect that to be taken seriously.

Re:Message from Mexico: U.S. Is Polluting Water It May Somed... by sp332 on Thursday January 30, 2014 @04:58PM (#7153606)
Actually, thanks partly to more-efficient tech and mostly to the economy, America's energy usage has been lower in the past few years.
Re:Message from Mexico: U.S. Is Polluting Water It May Somed... by Crito on Thursday January 30, 2014 @05:08PM (#7153675)
Do you have a source for that? Wolfram Alpha shows a slight dip corresponding with the recession, and the data cuts off at 2010, but the overall trend seems pretty damming: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=us+power+usage
Re:Message from Mexico: U.S. Is Polluting Water It May Somed... by sp332 on Thursday January 30, 2014 @05:21PM (#7153740)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_the_United_States#Co... shows residential and commercial electricity usage declining in 2000 but doesn't seem to have later data.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/national_world/2013/... says homes are down to using less energy in 2013 than anytime since the early 2000's. Here's a graph of energy use over time http://nation.time.com/2013/10/24/interactive-see-how-americ...

Re:Message from Mexico: U.S. Is Polluting Water It May Somed... by DerpDerpDerp on Thursday January 30, 2014 @04:52PM (#7153563)
We think you're defending coal because you say things like "Coal doesn't need a replacement [...] a nuclear plant is not an acceptable way to generate energy" despite the fact that the coal plants are way more polluting and radioactive.
Re:Message from Mexico: U.S. Is Polluting Water It May Somed... by sp332 on Thursday January 30, 2014 @05:01PM (#7153627)
"Coal doesn't need a replacement, we need to start using energy responsibly." That means: stop using coal, and don't replace it with anything. Just stop using so much power.
Re:Message from Mexico: U.S. Is Polluting Water It May Somed... by moocowduckquack on Thursday January 30, 2014 @05:46PM (#7153880)
Tricky to do that without a lot of people dying. Also, if you honestly think that, then what are you doing wasting joules chatting idly on the internet?