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Re:Tesla Completes L.A.-to-New York Electric Model S Drive C... by encoderer on Monday January 27, 2014 @04:23PM (#7133333)
I think the point is that more often you're stopping for more than just gas. Lunch. Bathroom. Clean your windshield. You add it up, it's longer than 10 mins anyway, so this doesn't affect you all that much.

Also I take issue with the logic that fuel savings don't matter if you're spending that much on a car anyway. I don't see it that way at all. Being able to pay like $1k/mo car payment doesn't yet put you in "money is no object" territory IMO.

Re:Tesla Completes L.A.-to-New York Electric Model S Drive C... by abalone on Monday January 27, 2014 @05:39PM (#7133889)
Why does the level of discourse around this subject need to be so disingenuous?

There is definitely a time penalty at stops. Meals are the only one of those things that takes longer than 10 minutes. You do that maybe a couple times a day.

With the model s you are stopping about every 2.5-3 hours for 30 minutes. Exactly one or two of those stops might involve a half hour meal, where it doesn't make a difference. The rest of the time, it does. To characterize this as not "affecting you all that much" vs. a traditional gas trip is just not accurate.

But you know what? That's ok. I don't get why some enthusiasts feel the need to pretend there are no compromises. It's ok for the model s to have some drawbacks at this stage. It's early. That's how the technology cycle works. Like I said elsewhere, the model s is like the first macintosh. It's the future and it's already pretty cool. No need to pretend it does more than it can. That just polarizes people.

Re:Tesla Completes L.A.-to-New York Electric Model S Drive C... by encoderer on Monday January 27, 2014 @06:26PM (#7134132)
Disingenuous? Hey buddy, GFY.

Last year I drove from Florida to San Francisco. We did it over 5 days, my wife and I with our dog.

We stopped as-needed and always more than 10 minutes. Just filling the tank & handling payment takes that long. But in reality, you NEED to clean the windshield to clear off the bug splatter. And you NEED to use the facilities. Probably you and your passengers. And you really WANT a moment to stand up and stretch your legs anyway.

Does it always take 30 minutes? Certainly not. Twenty? Probably more like it.

"Just not accurate"? "enthusiasts need to pretend?" From where I'm sitting your comment here is a contender for A-hole of the Thread award. Congrats, you must be so proud.

I take issue with your accusations. I wrote what I wrote in good faith based on my somewhat recent experience with the cross-country road trip. I don't look politely on somebody like yourself suggesting otherwise.

Re:Tesla Completes L.A.-to-New York Electric Model S Drive C... by mturmon on Monday January 27, 2014 @06:39PM (#7134190)
You're being needlessly aggressive. The comment to which you are responding was raising a reasonable point.
Re:Tesla Completes L.A.-to-New York Electric Model S Drive C... by encoderer on Monday January 27, 2014 @06:54PM (#7134255)
You can raise a point without an ad hominem attack, mturmon. Happily standing-by my comment.
Re:Tesla Completes L.A.-to-New York Electric Model S Drive C... by Dewie on Tuesday January 28, 2014 @06:57AM (#7136558)
> You're being needlessly aggressive.

The first line of the abalone's post was needlessly insulting. I'm not saying that tit-for-tat is OK, but I can see what provoked the outburst.

Re:Tesla Completes L.A.-to-New York Electric Model S Drive C... by mturmon on Tuesday January 28, 2014 @12:58PM (#7138546)
Disagree. This kind of disproportionate outburst is not fit for HN. "Go fuck yourself" and "A-hole of the thread" have no place here.