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Re:Why are US corporate profits so high? Because wages are s... by yummyfajitas on Monday January 27, 2014 @05:08AM (#7129611)
The justification is simple - a call option is worth more than a forward with the same strike price. If employees are to receive their market rate in cash (call it $X), they can receive $X worth of forward contracts, or $X worth of call options. If they choose call options, either the value of the contracts or the strike price will need to be lower.

So more precisely, the reasonable choices would be wages, profit sharing in upside and downside, or lower wages + profit sharing in upside only.

Profit sharing works great when employees have the ability to significantly affect profits. Traders/hedge fund managers are a great example of this. For manufacturing employees, a piece rate (rather than hourly rate) would be a similar way to create such incentives.

Re:Why are US corporate profits so high? Because wages are s... by eru on Monday January 27, 2014 @05:39AM (#7129668)
The employees do sell a put option in the form of "employee can be fired", though. And the shareholders are only liable up to their equity invested.
Re:Why are US corporate profits so high? Because wages are s... by erichocean on Monday January 27, 2014 @03:23PM (#7132942)
So more precisely, the reasonable choices would be wages, profit sharing in upside and downside, or lower wages + profit sharing in upside only.

In another comment, someone asked about the executives who get paid and then "only have upside", as if that somehow proved that employees should also get an upside. Not so: executives are the last option: lower wages + profit sharing in upside only. Employees are—literally—taking the first option. If they want the last option, they can become executives. We don't have a legally-mandated cast system in this country, anyone who is competent can become an executive and take option three.

And the wages really are lower for executives who only have upside potential. If you are an executive (not a manager, an executive) you can either run your own company, or run someone else's company. If you run your own company, you've got upside and downside risk. If you run someone else's company, you have (much) smaller upside potential, but that's compensated by: (a) lower, but guaranteed, wages + (b) no downside potential.

It's a reasonable trade for a lot of executives to make.