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Re:Christ, I hate Blackboard by ChuckMcM on Saturday January 25, 2014 @04:38PM (#7122570)
Such a rant, I think it comes close to conveying the author's distaste for the product. The Google link is pretty informative as well. I wonder how some product that is so loathed by clearly a number of people, manages to stay in the market. Understanding that question might actually shed some insight on what it would take to create a successful education targeted company.
Re:Christ, I hate Blackboard by pcwalton on Saturday January 25, 2014 @04:41PM (#7122583)
From what I've read the problem is patents: Blackboard owns a huge number of them and threatens to sue any potential competitor out of existence.
Re:Christ, I hate Blackboard by onedev on Saturday January 25, 2014 @04:47PM (#7122620)
What possible patents can a shitty web app like that own?
Re:Christ, I hate Blackboard by nathan_f77 on Saturday January 25, 2014 @06:01PM (#7122925)
Re:Christ, I hate Blackboard by pbhjpbhj on Saturday January 25, 2014 @07:10PM (#7123137)
On a quick glance claim 1 appears to be anticipated by any networked file sharing system that includes user permissions you'd possibly need to have 3 users with differing credentials for a novelty citation but there certainly doesn't appear to be an inventive step beyond mere citation of, say, a unix box with files with read/write flags and user:group credentials.

Claims 2-7 are just messages sent to a particular group.

Claim 8 refers to a "dropbox" file which, certainly in the UK, as a trademark wouldn't be allowed as it's inherently unclear.

Many of the claims are distinct only in non-technical details, eg the name attached to a specific role or the textual contents of a file. Such claims don't define the invention.

This strikes me as a very poor quality set of claims.

The clumsy wording of claim 39 "An method for providing online education method for a community of users in a network based system comprising the steps of:" suggests that no one at the USPTO read it.

As a B1 this is supposedly the patent "as granted".

Re:Christ, I hate Blackboard by ivanca on Saturday January 25, 2014 @08:11PM (#7123341)
Yeah; all the patent says is "anything the school and its student does over any network, that includes Internet".
Re:Christ, I hate Blackboard by WildUtah on Saturday January 25, 2014 @11:33PM (#7123905)
That is in every quality typical of the patents granted and enforced in court every day in the USA. Pointing out that the claims were anticipated and are incoherent doesn't help much in front of a jury of laypeople.
Re:Christ, I hate Blackboard by onedev on Saturday January 25, 2014 @06:05PM (#7122947)
Wow. Incredible.

Just wow....

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Re:Christ, I hate Blackboard by ajayjain on Saturday January 25, 2014 @05:23PM (#7122786)
"against the development, use or distribution of Open Source Software or Home-Grown Systems to the extent that such Open Source Software and Home-Grown Systems are not Bundled with proprietary software"

Competitors are not protected by this pledge.

Re:Christ, I hate Blackboard by rch on Saturday January 25, 2014 @04:50PM (#7122640)
I would love to know what the more important patents are, if anyone has been looking around and happens to have a list.
Re:Christ, I hate Blackboard by nate_meurer on Saturday January 25, 2014 @05:02PM (#7122701)
As far as I know there was one main patent -- 6,988,138 -- which was utter garbage and was invalidated in 2009.

It was this patent which BlackBoard used to try to shut down a competitor named Desire2Learn in 2006. The invalidation forced Blackboard to retreat, and they've since been much quieter on the legal front.

Re:Christ, I hate Blackboard by rch on Saturday January 25, 2014 @06:44PM (#7123056)
Interesting - Thanks. It's downright annoying to read a patent like that, and I'm happy to hear it was invalidated.
Re:Christ, I hate Blackboard by Edmond on Saturday January 25, 2014 @04:48PM (#7122630)
I think it has more to do with the structure (procurement) and culture (ivory tower thinking doesn't believe in efficiency) of academia than fear of patents.
Re:Christ, I hate Blackboard by jt2190 on Saturday January 25, 2014 @05:16PM (#7122761)

  > I wonder how some product that is so loathed by clearly 
  > a number of people, manages to stay in the market.
To paraphrase Milton Friedman [1], when you spend someone else's money on someone else you don't care about how much it costs and you don't care about whether the product works well.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_to_Choose

Re:Christ, I hate Blackboard by onedev on Saturday January 25, 2014 @04:46PM (#7122611)
The problem it seems, is not creating a better product, but convincing universities to actually use the said product.

Recently a system called Canvas is being used over Blackboard but it seems that it's only marginally better...sadly.

Re:Christ, I hate Blackboard by gfodor on Saturday January 25, 2014 @04:52PM (#7122653)
patents & high switching costs