Re:1984: The masterpiece that killed George Orwell
by MartinCron on Wednesday January 22, 2014 @10:22AM
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Those FBI stings are a pretty good example, though I would say that it's more textbook entrapment than thoughtcrime. It seems that they are selecting more for the ability to be manipulated over their ideological positions.
As far as hate-crime goes, the notion behind increased punishment there is that the victims include an entire terrorized community, not just the direct victim. If I throw some trash on some guy's lawn, there's one victim (the guy). If I burn a cross on some guy's lawn, there are multiple victims (the other black families in the neighborhood). It's an important distinction.
Re:1984: The masterpiece that killed George Orwell
by gumby on Wednesday January 22, 2014 @10:36PM
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Read up on the FBI "terrorism" plots most of them are beyond traditional entrapment and into enticement.
For hate crime: yes, you've explained the justification for the designation. But it is thoughtcrime. You've merely said that it's legitimate.
Or, frankly, when a punishment for a crime is increased by its intent (e.g. race related or anti-homosexual) -- it's not only the crime that is punished but the thought behind it as well.