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Re:Wozniak: “Actually, the movie was largely a lie about me” by crusso on Monday January 20, 2014 @02:43PM (#7091391)
Paypal is interesting and a niche success, but wasn't deeply visionary. SpaceX and Tesla are cool, and may even end up being market successes - but they still have a ways to go before proving themselves.

I'm a Musk fan, but Jobs had a huge body of work in fantastic products/movies that his enterprises created under his leadership.

a trend which is showing no sign of abating and every likelihood of levelling out in much the same position the Mac ultimately did

There's your problem right there. You're somehow equating number of clone devices out there to Jobs's visionary ability to create entirely new markets with products and services that were then copied endlessly.

Number of cheap clone devices out there produced by third party manufactures was never Jobs' goal. How is IBM doing with that whole computer clone business, by the way?

Re:Wozniak: “Actually, the movie was largely a lie about me” by peterjancelis on Tuesday January 21, 2014 @12:17AM (#7093622)
Paypal was much more than a niche success - "payments on the internet" is huge. You can argue Paypal didn't materialize its vision, but the vision was there.
Re:Wozniak: “Actually, the movie was largely a lie about me” by nickstinemates on Monday January 20, 2014 @10:32PM (#7093266)
IBM isn't hip, but it's still a meaningful company that's thriving.
Re:Wozniak: “Actually, the movie was largely a lie about me” by nknighthb on Tuesday January 21, 2014 @06:43AM (#7094663)
That's because IBM-the-company has always been a multi-headed beast with a lot of other -- and far more successful -- businesses both before and after the IBM PC business existed. crusso is not talking about the company, but the business, which IBM got out of in 2004/2005 after years of losing money on it.