Obama presents NSA reforms with plan to end government storage of call data

Re:Obama presents NSA reforms with plan to end government st... by mpyne on Friday January 17, 2014 @07:21PM (#7079430)

> Give to to me straight: Do you think that a search warrant should be obtained before violating the privacy of Abdi Zullah?

For law enforcement? Yes, at least to the extent that an "unreasonable" search would be performed.

For military applications (such as, yes, counter-terrorism)? No, for the same reason we didn't get a warrant to wiretap Hitler's generals. I would still say that searches against any particular individual be supported by more than a single analyst's "hunch", or that non-individualized searches should be looking for particular things instead of just trawling what they can, if only for resource efficiency reasons.

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Re:Obama presents NSA reforms with plan to end government st... by Crito on Friday January 17, 2014 @08:58PM (#7079693)

I don't believe that anybody is suggesting that the CIA or NSA should request search warrants for non-citizens located outside of the US. Even if you had probable cause the courts would just be perplexed that you were coming to them with something from outside of the country.

(Many people, myself included, think that there is something wrong with how we are currently handling those situations, but search warrants for non-citizens outside of the country are obviously not the answer we are looking for there.)

Domestic terrorists? Get a warrant.

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Re:Obama presents NSA reforms with plan to end government st... by mpyne on Saturday January 18, 2014 @06:41PM (#7082764)

What are you talking about? Domestic terrorists already require a warrant.

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