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Re:What STEM shortage? Electrical engineering lost 35,000 jo... by davidw on Friday January 17, 2014 @10:04AM (#7076079)
> Good times are over

Beyond the lump of labor fallacy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lump_of_labour_fallacy , did you consider that those people have every right to do their best in this world as anyone else, no matter where they happen to be born? That might mean coming to the US or Germany or whatever. If that's easier for them, fine by me.

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Re:What STEM shortage? Electrical engineering lost 35,000 jo... by pessimizer on Friday January 17, 2014 @10:27AM (#7076209)
>those people have every right to do their best in this world as anyone else, no matter where they happen to be born?

Nobody's proposing any anti-"doing-your-best" legislation, nor blaming the cheap Indian labor, who is often exploited terribly.

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Re:What STEM shortage? Electrical engineering lost 35,000 jo... by davidw on Friday January 17, 2014 @10:31AM (#7076241)
Sure they are. They want to keep those people where they were born and do not want to let them into the US.

Say you're born in someplace really bad like the Congo, as an extreme example. No matter how you try, you are not going to do your best there.

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Re:What STEM shortage? Electrical engineering lost 35,000 jo... by a8da6b0c91d on Friday January 17, 2014 @11:32AM (#7076618)
Why shouldn't the current residents be right to selectively exclude people? To think otherwise seems ignorant of basic human nature and thousands of years of history.
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