Re:New release of Self programming language
by alayne on Sunday January 12, 2014 @08:39PM
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I always wonder if the Self people felt bad about their VM efforts going into Java. Java has really been one of the least inventive and progressive languages.
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Re:New release of Self programming language
by seanmcdirmid on Sunday January 12, 2014 @08:52PM
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I doubt they would feel sad about their technology being adopted by a mainstream language used by millions of developers vs. a research experimental language that many outside of research haven't even heard of before.
Re:New release of Self programming language
by payload on Tuesday January 14, 2014 @05:55AM
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wasnt smalltalk once a mainstream language? in ancient times, late 80s?
Re:New release of Self programming language
by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday January 14, 2014 @09:35AM
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The number of programmers back then was much less than now, but even then I don't think Smalltalk was a top 10 language. I guess it depends on how you define mainstream, Smalltalk has/had its niches, some of which are still active. But there is nothing wrong with using research languages like self (which was never mainstream) to explore and develop new tech that can be applied to mainstream languages.
Re:New release of Self programming language
by bhrgunatha on Sunday January 12, 2014 @08:53PM
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Presumably some of that effort is responsible for the JVM begin chosen to host other languages.
Re:New release of Self programming language
by cageface on Monday January 13, 2014 @12:08AM
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Java brought garbage collection into the mainstream. That alone is enough to consider it progressive.