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Re:Consciousness as a State of Matter by wfn on Wednesday January 08, 2014 @05:40PM (#7027346)
This isn't relevant / applicable / the same because dreamless sleep would not involve consciousness (in most any sense/definition of the word), whereas meditation would. So your example doesn't really say anything, in my opinion. Unless you had something else in mind?
Re:Consciousness as a State of Matter by Florin_Andrei on Wednesday January 08, 2014 @06:27PM (#7027610)
If you have no memories from dreamless sleep, how do you know it's an unconscious state?
Re:Consciousness as a State of Matter by wfn on Wednesday January 08, 2014 @07:01PM (#7027796)
That's an interesting point. One way to approach it would be to say that it is an unconscious state because of the very fact that one cannot recall it. But this is surely not necessarily correct (works given certain assumptions about the nature of consciousness), so I'm not sure. It still seems to be a somewhat orthogonal question to me, though. :)