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Re:At last, a law to stop almost anyone from doing almost an... by gaius on Tuesday January 07, 2014 @05:54AM (#7016595)
When opera lovers start looting shops, then the police will start handing out citations. You seem to think it's unfair that a group with no history of causing trouble should be treated differently from one that has. And yes I have been both a teenage goth in Camden and in the queue at the ROH to see Turandot (among others).
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Re:At last, a law to stop almost anyone from doing almost an... by tehwalrus on Tuesday January 07, 2014 @06:55AM (#7016805)
Treating a group differently because a similar group was trouble in the past is no way to run a police service!

If it's a bunch of people affiliated with a political ideology (e.g. EDL marches, occupy) then you might have a point since they're voluntarily associating - but profiling based on age, race, what type of entertainment they're queuing for, that is unjustifiable! think of the number of false positives....

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Re:At last, a law to stop almost anyone from doing almost an... by gaius on Tuesday January 07, 2014 @07:08AM (#7016844)
The existence of football hooligans would tend to disprove that. Also punks. You can actually very easily correlate "trouble" with "preferred entertainment".
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Re:At last, a law to stop almost anyone from doing almost an... by lmm on Tuesday January 07, 2014 @11:32AM (#7018133)
You can. That doesn't make it right.
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Re:At last, a law to stop almost anyone from doing almost an... by tehwalrus on Tuesday January 07, 2014 @07:22AM (#7016880)
Punk was political, specifically anarchist - argument void.

I didn't say you can't correlate it, I said you can't treat them all like criminals by default - only a small fraction of football fans are violent, similarly teenagers.

A law that effectively bans people queuing up to watch football is the same level of crazy as banning teenagers from queuing up for goth metal.

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Re:At last, a law to stop almost anyone from doing almost an... by gaius on Tuesday January 07, 2014 @07:31AM (#7016909)
Political, specifically Fascist I think you mean. There is a big overlap with punks, football hooligans and BNP/Combat 18. Ever heard of Skrewdriver? Where does the law ban people from standing in queues?
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Re:At last, a law to stop almost anyone from doing almost an... by tehwalrus on Tuesday January 07, 2014 @07:52AM (#7016980)
Your initial comment referenced the possibility of people being given an order for "clogging up the pavement", whether protesting, queuing for the opera, etc - that is what I've been referencing.
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Re:At last, a law to stop almost anyone from doing almost an... by dreamfactory2 on Tuesday January 07, 2014 @09:35PM (#7021325)
Skrewdriver had nothing to do with punk. Apart from being long dead by the time the BNP formed, punk was nihilist and situationist, not fascist.
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Re:At last, a law to stop almost anyone from doing almost an... by binarymax on Tuesday January 07, 2014 @05:57AM (#7016606)
I never said I agree with it, I am merely stating opinion of how this law will be (ab)used. I have been to many shows in camden myself and have caused a fair share of trouble "on the pavements". This law is a terrible idea - but make no mistake - the author knows exactly how it will be levied.
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