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Re:Skype blog hacked by krapp on Wednesday January 01, 2014 @11:22PM (#6998186)
Show me an alternative that I can sell to a non-technically minded client with a small business who just wants to blog and put up a youtube feed and do e-commerce and maybe SEO. And oh, they can't ever even know what a terminal is, much less git.
Re:Skype blog hacked by X4 on Thursday January 02, 2014 @02:02PM (#7001425)
Try http://getkirby.com or http://concrete5.org or http://silverstripe.org there are many many other CMS or Blogging platforms too. For just Blogging as the main thing, you're perfectly set with https://ghost.org/

Without exaggerating, I've downloaded almost any CMS on Github and Bitbucket and Sourceforge and I'm almost done with testing all of them. I think about 15 remain. With all honesty, I cannot say that I'm impressed with any CMS so far. There is just one thing that stood out, with it's concept, but it's still only Alpha grade quality, that's: http://parsimony.mobi/

I've you're curious what I ended up with, just ping me and I'll share my results, after I've really compared all CMS with each other. Currently I would say that there are about ~10 good quality CMS, with hundreds of miserably coded ones. That is a good benchmark, for how good developers are in the real world, I mean there is only so much space at the top of the iceberg. Not everybody can excel with every project they start (well, except people like Fabrice Bellard)

I've not compared Typo3, Alfresco and other Enterprise CMS, because even when they come with all features loaded, they suck at code complexity and user friendliness

You can't tell me that Wordpress is the only blogging platform that fits to all of your requirements, because there are thousands of CMS out there and you'll spend weeks testing all of them.

Re:Skype blog hacked by krapp on Thursday January 02, 2014 @03:48PM (#7002167)
I'm not actually a Wordpress fanboy by any means (though it does pay the bills) - for my own personal use i'm setting my site up in Slim Framework. Professionally, though, i've found that if someone wants to blog or do "e-commerce", talking them out of Wordpress (and into something they're still willing to pay for) is a difficult thing to do.
Re:Skype blog hacked by gregmolnar on Thursday January 02, 2014 @02:20AM (#6998587)
Why should the client know git or anything else if you are the one who has to setup the blog for him/her? Or are you working with clients only who know html, css, ftp etc so they can do the work themself just being lazy and paying you instead?
Re:Skype blog hacked by krapp on Thursday January 02, 2014 @11:42AM (#7000452)
I think they don't want to be intimidated by complexity and don't want to have to pay someone more to deal with it for them in the future. Typically they want to be able to administrate the site themselves, and they can do that through web forms easily enough.
Re:Skype blog hacked by X4 on Thursday January 02, 2014 @02:13PM (#7001528)
What you describe can easily be solved with Google Fusion Tables and a tiny script in your favorite server-side language.
Re:Skype blog hacked by krapp on Thursday January 02, 2014 @03:48PM (#7002168)
You're right - I think the problem is mostly one of marketing the alternatives.